feathers and tying flys with them

riverman wrote:

"briansfly" wrote in message
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riverman wrote:

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riverman wrote:


"Richard Herr Harder" wrote in message
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WTF are you thinking? What are the top 10 flies for trout? I bet the
prince nymph is one. Its main components are brown goose biots and
white goose biots.


Hmm....top ten trout flies. Hard to enumerate, since there are several
versions of upwing drys that might qualify separately. Nontheless, my
thoughts, close to being in order, for the top 10 fish-catchers
worldwide a

Wolly bugger
GRHE
EHC
PT
Wolly worm
Adams
Parachute
Muddler minnow
Copper John
Some type of ant

Prince nymph is down around #15 or 20, in my book.

The Copper John uses goose biots as well. I believe that it is now, or
recently was, Umpqua's #1 selling fly.



Most I've seen look more like this:
http://www.danica.com/FLYTIER/jwoola...opper_john.htm

but I don't doubt that the original had biots.

--riverman

That version would certainly be easier to tie, and I don't see why it
wouldn't be as effective, but this is the more common tie I see.

http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flyt...20204fotw.html

brians



Damn, thats a nice set of illustrated instructions. I think I'll try tying
some up. But why so specific about 'leading' the copper wire turns with the
thread? Seems to me that wrapping the thread to the head, then twisting the
wire would have the exact same result.

Harry?

--riverman

I don't want to speak for Harry, but he explains it pretty well in Step
#14. The thread and bobbin add additional pressure to the wire, and help
keep the wraps tight against each other. I've done it this way, and
while it may help, I find it easier to do as you suggested(wrapping the
thread up to the head). Also, the partridge legs *look* easy enough to
tie in, but it does take some experience before you get them even, and
aligned properly.

Harry has a excellent tutorial section.....one of the best on the web.
He also sells high quality flies at reasonable prices.

brians