Nymphs how to fish

rw wrote:

I disagree with this. In general, deeper is harder, but I believe you
can successfully fish nymphs below an indicator much deeper than a foot
or two.

1.
Well sure, you can fish a little deeper than a foot or two, with
and indicator, if you work at it. There is a threshold level
of depth where indicators stop being useful--beyond which
you're better off fishing without the indicator at all.
I had to fish that way this past weekend. The water was
cold and a little off color, and the fish were podded up
in deep water. When I found them I caught 3-4 per hole,
down deep. I used a barbell crazy charlie as weight
with a stonefly nymph behind that. It worked like a charm.
An indicator rig would have produced ungats. They were far
too deep for that.

2.
I'll guess ungats is the also the number of fish you've
caught on Fish Pimps over the years. Hopper indicators
don't work well in early April. But they do work.
If it's the visual thing you like, you can make
a hopper indicator with a hot lime or pink wing.
If it floats well, and there is a wet fly behind it,
then it's an indicator. If that indicator has a hook
in it, ungats is not the number of fish you will catch
on the indicator.

Sandy Pittendrigh wrote:

2.
I'll guess ungats is the also the number of fish you've
caught on Fish Pimps over the years. Hopper indicators
don't work well in early April. But they do work.
If it's the visual thing you like, you can make
a hopper indicator with a hot lime or pink wing.
If it floats well, and there is a wet fly behind it,
then it's an indicator. If that indicator has a hook
in it, ungats is not the number of fish you will catch
on the indicator.

I don't have anything *against* using a fly as an indicator, but I
usually prefer an fish-pimp-type indicator. The reason is the same that
I don't much like yarn indicators -- it's hard to change the depth.

Whenever I'm fishing hopper/dropper rigs I feel like I'm primarily
fishing the hopper, and that the nymph is an extra.

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Sandy Pittendrigh wrote:

2.
I'll guess ungats is the also the number of fish you've
caught on Fish Pimps over the years. Hopper indicators
don't work well in early April. But they do work.
If it's the visual thing you like, you can make
a hopper indicator with a hot lime or pink wing.
If it floats well, and there is a wet fly behind it,
then it's an indicator. If that indicator has a hook
in it, ungats is not the number of fish you will catch
on the indicator.

I don't have anything *against* using a fly as an indicator, but I usually
prefer an fish-pimp-type indicator. The reason is the same that I don't
much like yarn indicators -- it's hard to change the depth.

Whenever I'm fishing hopper/dropper rigs I feel like I'm primarily fishing
the hopper, and that the nymph is an extra.

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Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

How do you tie the indicator fly on?


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I had a thought (it's a miracle).
I like to use dry flies as indicators.
Itty bitty nymphs can be 'indicated' with a
#16 Royal Wulff. Heavier nymphs need a bigger,
better floating (cant' remember how to spel
bouant) dry fly. I like dryfly indicators because it's
more fun to watch an indicator that might catch
a fish, than it is to watch one that cannot
and will not.

But the one complaint I hear over and over again
is that a grasshopper followed by a beadhead
is "too hard to cast" ...... and that you
can't attach a hopper close to the butt of the leader.

But that argument misses several crucial points.

It's only hard to cast a hopper
dropper if you attach the hopper to the end of
a long light leader. If you attach the hopper at
4 - 6 feet from the butt, to 15lb test, then
you can turn it over in a hurricane. And if you
think the 15lb leader that attaches to the
hopper ruins it's chances of catching a fish,
you be wrong. Everybody fishes the way they
like to fish. But it is important to have all
the important information.