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Joe Haubenreich wrote:
Well, Ronnie, your lack of success may be because you weren't throwing the
new IMPROVED Ultra-flex Bozonium-alloy, Scent-impregnated, Sparkle-coated
Chatterbait-X with Super-Sonic Rattle Chamber that just appeared on store
shelves last week. Did I say store shelves? I should say cash registers.
These incredible baits are not in stock long enough to require shelf space,
because eager anglers are snatching them up in the stores as eagerly as bass
do in the lake!

Bass have, evidently, grown jaded to the old, first-generation Chatterbait
(or "Model A" as it's sometimes called), having been exposed to it for
several months now. The revolutionary Chatterbait-X, however, guarantees
that bass will never become accustomed to it because it constantly changes
shape and sound in the water. Each cast is like throwing a whole new, small,
struggling bass bon-bon into the water. Bass are powerless to refuse it! FLW
and B.A.S.S. are considering outlawing this new bait, but until they do,
expect all bass tournament weight records to be smashed! Smashed, I tell
you!!!

MSRP on the Chatterbait-X is $10.99, but usually when a store tears open a
carton, a bidding war breaks out, and dealers report selling them to the
jostling, cursing crowd of desperate anglers for upwards of $50 apiece.
Prices on eBay today ranged from $33 to $71 for lures still in original
bubble packs.

On a related note... Police raided a modest rancher near Morristown,
Tennessee this past weekend. Concealed beneath the house is an elaborate
metal shop that has been carved out of a natural cavern. Deputies are still
exploring the vast complex of storerooms, mostly filled with Chatterbait
knock-offs that had been staged for shipment to tackle shops across the U.S.
Evidently, the counterfeiters abandoned their worthless lures, which before
the great Chatterbait Drop-off, had a street value of approximately $5
million. Now that the Chatterbait-X is on the market, demand for the Model
As has completely vanished. Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency has arranged
with Hamblin County Sheriff's department to take the entire load of baits,
wire them together, and use them as fish-repellents around power plant
cooling water intakes.

Joe

"Ronnie" wrote in message
oups.com...
Saw an old thread about this bait. I had heard of them and figured
just another hype. Read about them in the FLW mag while practicing for
my Top Six last month and figured the same thing. Next day, five days
before the tournament went into a store at the lake and they had a big
sign but no baits. Woman said they had about five dozen and some guy
came in and bought them all, said he did not want anyone fishing
against him to have any. That is at $6.99 eacyh. Another store up the
road a few miles said they sold out over six dozen in two days.

Called a club member that was not fishing the Top Six and he said he
had some. I had to go home for a couple of days anyway so went by his
house and he gave me three to use. Went by the local bait and tackle
store the next day and ask - they had five, told them I wanted all five
but two guys in the store begged to get one each so I left there with
three.

Next day back at the lake the store that was sold out had some in so I
bought three more. Now had nine! Did not want to get on the lake and
my partner beat my brains out with a bait I did not have. Shared with
the team members in my club that were camping together, made sure we
all had one just in cast.

Night before tournament I was looking for some jig heads in my boat and
found a paper sack. It had two Chatterbaits in it - it was a sack of
samples I got last April at Georgia Outdoor Writers Assoc meeting. Been
carrying them around for a year without trying them out!

Threw one some in the tournament as did other club members. One guy
said he caught a keeper on one, I never got bit on it. No bites in my
pond, either.

I am sure they will catch bass - and bass fishermen, just like other
baits.


Joe, you the Man!

That was a very good read. The funny thing is there are probably
anglers out there that would believe this; and be foaming at the mouth
like a bull dog to get ahold of this new Chatterbait-X! The sad thing
here is; there are other baits that they could purchase that would be
more for their money and also be more consistant.

It just goes to show the power of a PRO winning money in a tournament
on a bait. After this along with the marketing of this happening, the
craze begins!

I have a few of the Chatterbaits. It is not a catch-all lure. It has a
time and place as any bait. I have caught fish with it, and more with
My own bait. One thing is for sure; most anglers I have takled to, or
read reports are fishing the bait completely wrong. But, I will not
enlighten them. Just as I have figured out somethings that only my good
friends, and sponsors will know about for the time being.

-Justin

www.SecretWeaponLures.com
www.AllTerrainTackle.com

Justin - Joe

I, like a lot of others bought a couple of these "Chatter baits" because it
was new, and like a lot of people, we're [I'm] are just plain gullible.
After fishing it a few times without as much as a look [and finally one
fish] I'm back to fishing what I know works .And putting good fish in the
boat. .In fairness to the bait, it does have tremendous action and movement
but unless the fish are actively aggressive, nothing. This bait seems
destined for the" wouldn't catch a starving fish box". Put any of your new
baits out there and I'll buy one

Ken Blevins




wrote in message
oups.com...
Joe Haubenreich wrote:
Well, Ronnie, your lack of success may be because you weren't throwing
the
new IMPROVED Ultra-flex Bozonium-alloy, Scent-impregnated, Sparkle-coated
Chatterbait-X with Super-Sonic Rattle Chamber that just appeared on store
shelves last week. Did I say store shelves? I should say cash registers.
These incredible baits are not in stock long enough to require shelf
space,
because eager anglers are snatching them up in the stores as eagerly as
bass
do in the lake!

Bass have, evidently, grown jaded to the old, first-generation
Chatterbait
(or "Model A" as it's sometimes called), having been exposed to it for
several months now. The revolutionary Chatterbait-X, however, guarantees
that bass will never become accustomed to it because it constantly
changes
shape and sound in the water. Each cast is like throwing a whole new,
small,
struggling bass bon-bon into the water. Bass are powerless to refuse it!
FLW
and B.A.S.S. are considering outlawing this new bait, but until they do,
expect all bass tournament weight records to be smashed! Smashed, I tell
you!!!

MSRP on the Chatterbait-X is $10.99, but usually when a store tears open
a
carton, a bidding war breaks out, and dealers report selling them to the
jostling, cursing crowd of desperate anglers for upwards of $50 apiece.
Prices on eBay today ranged from $33 to $71 for lures still in original
bubble packs.

On a related note... Police raided a modest rancher near Morristown,
Tennessee this past weekend. Concealed beneath the house is an elaborate
metal shop that has been carved out of a natural cavern. Deputies are
still
exploring the vast complex of storerooms, mostly filled with Chatterbait
knock-offs that had been staged for shipment to tackle shops across the
U.S.
Evidently, the counterfeiters abandoned their worthless lures, which
before
the great Chatterbait Drop-off, had a street value of approximately $5
million. Now that the Chatterbait-X is on the market, demand for the
Model
As has completely vanished. Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency has
arranged
with Hamblin County Sheriff's department to take the entire load of
baits,
wire them together, and use them as fish-repellents around power plant
cooling water intakes.

Joe

"Ronnie" wrote in message
oups.com...
Saw an old thread about this bait. I had heard of them and figured
just another hype. Read about them in the FLW mag while practicing for
my Top Six last month and figured the same thing. Next day, five days
before the tournament went into a store at the lake and they had a big
sign but no baits. Woman said they had about five dozen and some guy
came in and bought them all, said he did not want anyone fishing
against him to have any. That is at $6.99 eacyh. Another store up the
road a few miles said they sold out over six dozen in two days.

Called a club member that was not fishing the Top Six and he said he
had some. I had to go home for a couple of days anyway so went by his
house and he gave me three to use. Went by the local bait and tackle
store the next day and ask - they had five, told them I wanted all five
but two guys in the store begged to get one each so I left there with
three.

Next day back at the lake the store that was sold out had some in so I
bought three more. Now had nine! Did not want to get on the lake and
my partner beat my brains out with a bait I did not have. Shared with
the team members in my club that were camping together, made sure we
all had one just in cast.

Night before tournament I was looking for some jig heads in my boat and
found a paper sack. It had two Chatterbaits in it - it was a sack of
samples I got last April at Georgia Outdoor Writers Assoc meeting. Been
carrying them around for a year without trying them out!

Threw one some in the tournament as did other club members. One guy
said he caught a keeper on one, I never got bit on it. No bites in my
pond, either.

I am sure they will catch bass - and bass fishermen, just like other
baits.


Joe, you the Man!

That was a very good read. The funny thing is there are probably
anglers out there that would believe this; and be foaming at the mouth
like a bull dog to get ahold of this new Chatterbait-X! The sad thing
here is; there are other baits that they could purchase that would be
more for their money and also be more consistant.

It just goes to show the power of a PRO winning money in a tournament
on a bait. After this along with the marketing of this happening, the
craze begins!

I have a few of the Chatterbaits. It is not a catch-all lure. It has a
time and place as any bait. I have caught fish with it, and more with
My own bait. One thing is for sure; most anglers I have takled to, or
read reports are fishing the bait completely wrong. But, I will not
enlighten them. Just as I have figured out somethings that only my good
friends, and sponsors will know about for the time being.

-Justin

www.SecretWeaponLures.com
www.AllTerrainTackle.com

"Ken Blevins" wrote in message
...
Justin - Joe

I, like a lot of others bought a couple of these "Chatter baits" because
it
was new, and like a lot of people, we're [I'm] are just plain gullible.
After fishing it a few times without as much as a look [and finally one
fish] I'm back to fishing what I know works .And putting good fish in the
boat. .In fairness to the bait, it does have tremendous action and
movement
but unless the fish are actively aggressive, nothing. This bait seems
destined for the" wouldn't catch a starving fish box". Put any of your new
baits out there and I'll buy one

Ken Blevins

Interesting Ken. I was thinking just the opposite. That it might work for
negative fish the same way a slow moving crank bait bounced off a tree can
in cold stained water.




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I have one of the Gambler knock-off chatterbaits. I didn't purchase it, it
was a gift from a fellow angler. It is a chartreuse model and I fished it on
a chartreuse kind of day. In all fairness, nothing was catching fish for me,
but I couldn't believe the almighty chatterbait style bait didn't put huge
fish in the boat every cast. I was very disappointed and it was like finding
out my hero is merely a mortal man in leotards!!!

I guess I need to wait for my 8 dozen, 10 month back ordered REAL
CHATTERBAITS before I can make any final decisions on this bait.

Dave V

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
.. .
"Ken Blevins" wrote in message
...
Justin - Joe

I, like a lot of others bought a couple of these "Chatter baits" because
it
was new, and like a lot of people, we're [I'm] are just plain gullible.
After fishing it a few times without as much as a look [and finally one
fish] I'm back to fishing what I know works .And putting good fish in the
boat. .In fairness to the bait, it does have tremendous action and
movement
but unless the fish are actively aggressive, nothing. This bait seems
destined for the" wouldn't catch a starving fish box". Put any of your
new
baits out there and I'll buy one

Ken Blevins

Interesting Ken. I was thinking just the opposite. That it might work
for
negative fish the same way a slow moving crank bait bounced off a tree can
in cold stained water.




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David Vito wrote:
I have one of the Gambler knock-off chatterbaits.

No comparison, in my opinion. Almost all the knock-offs use a split ring
to attach a blade to a "flat eye" jig head. And many of them use an
aluminum blade about 40 thousandths thick.

The original uses a stainless blade about 12 thousandths tick. The thin
blade vibrates through the water much faster than the thick aluminum
blade does, and more importantly, the arrangement of the blade, attached
directly to a link that's hard-fixed into the head (it's NOT the hook
eye) rather than to a split ring that lets the lure's head ride behind
the blade rather than beneath it, results in a very different action. On
the original, the blade rocks slightly to the side and strikes the top
of the head, then goes the other way. On the split ring knock-offs, the
blade rocks much farther to the side, and rather than running into the
top of the head, it kind of wipes the front of the head. The difference
in the way they run is considerable. There is a rapid, almost mechanical
vibration to the 'real thing', while the imitations have a much lower
frequency "throb". The difference in tactile feedback can be summed up
as not unlike the difference in feel between a rattletrap and a mann's
20plus (absent the huge resistance of the 20 plus).

I note that about a 3rd of the fish I've caught on the
split-ring-attached copies have been hooked in the lower jaw, from the
outside. There is no question that they are often striking at the blade
rather than the skirt/hook. I've not had a single fish hooked that way
with the direct-attached design of the original chatterbait.

On my first trip to lower champlain every year, I traditionally catch a
large number of fish slow rolling a spinnerbait. I'm anxious to run the
chatterbait (and its so-far inferior producing knock-offs) in the same
situation, and compare the results to slow rolling a traditional
singlespin. That will be this weekend.

RichZ wrote:
David Vito wrote:
I have one of the Gambler knock-off chatterbaits.

No comparison, in my opinion. Almost all the knock-offs use a split ring
to attach a blade to a "flat eye" jig head. And many of them use an
aluminum blade about 40 thousandths thick.

The original uses a stainless blade about 12 thousandths tick. The thin
blade vibrates through the water much faster than the thick aluminum
blade does, and more importantly, the arrangement of the blade, attached
directly to a link that's hard-fixed into the head (it's NOT the hook
eye) rather than to a split ring that lets the lure's head ride behind
the blade rather than beneath it, results in a very different action. On
the original, the blade rocks slightly to the side and strikes the top
of the head, then goes the other way. On the split ring knock-offs, the
blade rocks much farther to the side, and rather than running into the
top of the head, it kind of wipes the front of the head. The difference
in the way they run is considerable. There is a rapid, almost mechanical
vibration to the 'real thing', while the imitations have a much lower
frequency "throb". The difference in tactile feedback can be summed up
as not unlike the difference in feel between a rattletrap and a mann's
20plus (absent the huge resistance of the 20 plus).

I note that about a 3rd of the fish I've caught on the
split-ring-attached copies have been hooked in the lower jaw, from the
outside. There is no question that they are often striking at the blade
rather than the skirt/hook. I've not had a single fish hooked that way
with the direct-attached design of the original chatterbait.

On my first trip to lower champlain every year, I traditionally catch a
large number of fish slow rolling a spinnerbait. I'm anxious to run the
chatterbait (and its so-far inferior producing knock-offs) in the same
situation, and compare the results to slow rolling a traditional
singlespin. That will be this weekend.

Rich, I will agree with you here on somethings. Which by the way you
are very informative and seem to know a little about them. Yes, I too
know the difference with the diameter of the blade. The knock offs use
too heavy of a blade.

The blades I am making, are almost as thin as the orginal. I am making
different sizes, and have been doing exclusive testing with them. All
are attached with the split ring. I am actually getting as much and
sometimes more vibration (throb) and action from them. My small blade,
(about half the size as the orginal blade) puts out the same amount of
vibration (throb). It also makes the skirt & trailer pulsate very well.
So far all my fish that I have caught with My blades have inhailed the
bait (4.08lb) biggest. All have been caught inside top of the mouth and
swallowed almost to the end of the blade.

I do however, besides making a different setup myself; fish these
baits much different than the normal angler.

But, as in my bait; it is not a catch all lure all the time. It has
it's situations where I feel it is the best to use over any bait; as is
all lures.

-Justin Hires

Pro Staff: www.SecretWeaponLures.com
www.Allterraintackle.com
www.Scenttec.com

I was throwing the Gambler in the river. It was a perfect chartreuse kind of
day and the Muskie were leaping out of the water in the middle of the river.
The feed was on. There was some good smallie commotion tight to shore so I
started parallel casting pulling the Gambler about 2' off the shore with
various retrieves. I had 3 very nice hits on it. A spinnerbait with a
trailer hook would have sealed the deal, but the Gambler seemed to collapse
into itself and I couldn't get a good hookset. One fish took it from about 5
feet from me. He grabbed turned and started running to deeper water. I set
the hook on air. I like the action and I can see it attracting fish and
getting bites but there is a design flaw. I believe it to be the split ring.

I think with the Gambler bait I will use a trailer hook next time. I don't
own any chatterbaits but I do have many spinnerbaits and have been putting
fish in the boat with my hand tied bucktail spinnerbaits. There is something
very rewarding about catching fish with a bait made by your own 2 hands. The
look on Randy's face is priceless as well when I catch fish on my "homemade
piece of crap".

Dave V


"RichZ" wrote in message
...
David Vito wrote:
I have one of the Gambler knock-off chatterbaits.

No comparison, in my opinion. Almost all the knock-offs use a split ring
to attach a blade to a "flat eye" jig head. And many of them use an
aluminum blade about 40 thousandths thick.

The original uses a stainless blade about 12 thousandths tick. The thin
blade vibrates through the water much faster than the thick aluminum blade
does, and more importantly, the arrangement of the blade, attached
directly to a link that's hard-fixed into the head (it's NOT the hook eye)
rather than to a split ring that lets the lure's head ride behind the
blade rather than beneath it, results in a very different action. On the
original, the blade rocks slightly to the side and strikes the top of the
head, then goes the other way. On the split ring knock-offs, the blade
rocks much farther to the side, and rather than running into the top of
the head, it kind of wipes the front of the head. The difference in the
way they run is considerable. There is a rapid, almost mechanical
vibration to the 'real thing', while the imitations have a much lower
frequency "throb". The difference in tactile feedback can be summed up as
not unlike the difference in feel between a rattletrap and a mann's 20plus
(absent the huge resistance of the 20 plus).

I note that about a 3rd of the fish I've caught on the split-ring-attached
copies have been hooked in the lower jaw, from the outside. There is no
question that they are often striking at the blade rather than the
skirt/hook. I've not had a single fish hooked that way with the
direct-attached design of the original chatterbait.

On my first trip to lower champlain every year, I traditionally catch a
large number of fish slow rolling a spinnerbait. I'm anxious to run the
chatterbait (and its so-far inferior producing knock-offs) in the same
situation, and compare the results to slow rolling a traditional
singlespin. That will be this weekend.