Fisherman dies in Junction Pool

I was about 6 pools downstream from the Junction Pool when this happened.
The water was big. I limited myself to mid-thigh wading, and knee-level
would have been much safer.

FWIW, everyone raved about the Roscoe emergency crew's response time.


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Scott
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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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I was about 6 pools downstream from the Junction Pool when this happened.
The water was big. I limited myself to mid-thigh wading, and knee-level
would have been much safer.

FWIW, everyone raved about the Roscoe emergency crew's response time.


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Scott
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Sorry to hear about Justin Everrett. I also wear chest waders and it scares
the heck out of me when fishing fast rivers.
The test that was done on waders here in roff really caught my attention.
I'm tempted to order one of those SOS Inflatable Floatation Belt Pack.
http://www.orvis.com/store/product_c...&feature_id=17
-tom

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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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I was about 6 pools downstream from the Junction Pool when this
happened.
The water was big. I limited myself to mid-thigh wading, and
knee-level would have been much safer.

FWIW, everyone raved about the Roscoe emergency crew's response time.


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Scott
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Sorry to hear about Justin Everrett. I also wear chest waders and it
scares the heck out of me when fishing fast rivers.
The test that was done on waders here in roff really caught my
attention. I'm tempted to order one of those SOS Inflatable Floatation
Belt Pack.
http://www.orvis.com/store/product_c...dir_id=758&gro
up_id=10758&cat_id=10769&subcat_id=10770&feature_i d=17 -tom




I know there's the age-old debate about whether full waders impede motion
in the water. My own opinion is that they can't make things easier, and
that there is the potential that the wearer can get pushed about like a
boat with a drift sock.

I suspect, but can't be sure, that the biggest contributing factors to
many such tragic incidents are poor swimming skills in conjunction with
simple panic. I might look into the SOSpenders, eventually. I looked at
a wading staff as a c-note well spent on personal safety. I am concerned
that these inflatable PFD's might get in my way, though.



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Scott
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Scott Seidman wrote:

... I looked at
a wading staff as a c-note well spent on personal safety. ...

A hundred bucks for a wading staff ?!!? That sounds
excessive for a wading staff unless it comes with
built-in radar, wet bar, liquor cabinet and humidor. ;-)

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Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote in news:nz0hg.16563
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Scott Seidman wrote:

... I looked at
a wading staff as a c-note well spent on personal safety. ...

A hundred bucks for a wading staff ?!!? That sounds
excessive for a wading staff unless it comes with
built-in radar, wet bar, liquor cabinet and humidor. ;-)


You misunderstand, Ken. That wading staff is a staff of four guys who
stand around me making sure I don't fall!! The hundred bucks is really a
hundred bucks an hour!

Actually, that hundred bucks (or close to it anyway) was for the thicker
Folstaff. I like having a collapsible staff that I don't have to worry
about toting along or tripping over. It deploys rapidly when I need it.
There is some tendency for the segments to get a little "stuck" when you
want to collapse it, as the tolerance on the fit is pretty tight, but
once you learn the trick of rolling the stuck joint on your knee, the
problem becomes less of a problem. The important thing is that the
three-cushion ****-around happens when you're already out of trouble, and
the thing deploys real fast when you need it.

Simms makes a nice one now, but deployment seems a tad less automatic
than the Folstaff, and it didn't exist when I bought mine. If I were
buying one today, I would do a serious A-B comparison before buying
either.

I've taken one good bath with the Folstaff on hand, at Penn's, but I'm
pretty sure it's saved me from three or four more--and probably a dozen
or more if you count those wading situations that I should have avoided
in the first place. The real trick is being sure not to use the staff to
wade yourself INTO trouble.

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Scott Seidman wrote in
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You misunderstand, Ken. That wading staff is a staff of four guys who
stand around me making sure I don't fall!! The hundred bucks is
really a hundred bucks an hour!


By the way-- one of the only pictures I can recall of me with a trout was
taken this trip, http://www.mindspring.com/~scottseidman/willow2.jpg

That's on the Willowemoc, about 200 yards above the iron bridge at rt 17 in
downtown Roscoe, not far from the Dette place. Not a bad fish for the 3wt
Sage SP I was using. Things would have been easier with the 5-wt T&T I
used for subsequent outings that trip.

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Scott
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Scott Seidman wrote:

Simms makes a nice one now, but deployment seems a tad less automatic
than the Folstaff, and it didn't exist when I bought mine. If I were
buying one today, I would do a serious A-B comparison before buying
either.

I really like my Simms wading staff. I think it has a more robust design
that the Folstaff.

BTW, this afternoon I tagged along on a training raft trip down the
Salmon River, which flows through Stanley. The water is super high --
higher than the guides have ever seen it. Two class IV rapids and three
class IIIs. It was a blast and for the fist time I didn't fall out.

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"rw" wrote in message
m...
Scott Seidman wrote:

Simms makes a nice one now, but deployment seems a tad less automatic
than the Folstaff, and it didn't exist when I bought mine. If I were
buying one today, I would do a serious A-B comparison before buying
either.

I really like my Simms wading staff. I think it has a more robust design
that the Folstaff.

BTW, this afternoon I tagged along on a training raft trip down the Salmon
River, which flows through Stanley. The water is super high --
higher than the guides have ever seen it. Two class IV rapids and three
class IIIs. It was a blast and for the fist time I didn't fall out.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

I also have the Simms wading staff, rubber handle, easy to deploy and
retract, shock cord, compact, neoprene holster.
-tom

"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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"Tom Nakashima" wrote in
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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4...
I was about 6 pools downstream from the Junction Pool when this
happened.
The water was big. I limited myself to mid-thigh wading, and
knee-level would have been much safer.

FWIW, everyone raved about the Roscoe emergency crew's response time.


--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Sorry to hear about Justin Everrett. I also wear chest waders and it
scares the heck out of me when fishing fast rivers.
The test that was done on waders here in roff really caught my
attention. I'm tempted to order one of those SOS Inflatable Floatation
Belt Pack.
http://www.orvis.com/store/product_c...dir_id=758&gro
up_id=10758&cat_id=10769&subcat_id=10770&feature_i d=17 -tom




I know there's the age-old debate about whether full waders impede motion
in the water. My own opinion is that they can't make things easier, and
that there is the potential that the wearer can get pushed about like a
boat with a drift sock.

I suspect, but can't be sure, that the biggest contributing factors to
many such tragic incidents are poor swimming skills in conjunction with
simple panic. I might look into the SOSpenders, eventually. I looked at
a wading staff as a c-note well spent on personal safety. I am concerned
that these inflatable PFD's might get in my way, though.
--
Scott
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Poor swimming skills and panic attack might best describe me. I can swim,
but not in a fast moving current, and I have a feeling I would panic no
matter how much I try to keep myself calm. I think I'm going to do it, buy
the SOS Inflatable Floatation Belt Pack. I fish a lot of fast moving rivers.

I saw a documentary on survival, where this well fit male backpacker in his
30's had to float down a river for 1.5 miles in a medium flowing current by
clinching onto an inflatable pack mounted on the front of his chest. He
made it safe, but at the end of the 1.5 miles, he was pretty exhausted, he
could barely pull himself out of the water.
-tom

Tom Nakashima wrote:
"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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"Tom Nakashima" wrote in
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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4...
I was about 6 pools downstream from the Junction Pool when this
happened.
The water was big. I limited myself to mid-thigh wading, and
knee-level would have been much safer.

FWIW, everyone raved about the Roscoe emergency crew's response time.


--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Sorry to hear about Justin Everrett. I also wear chest waders and it
scares the heck out of me when fishing fast rivers.
The test that was done on waders here in roff really caught my
attention. I'm tempted to order one of those SOS Inflatable Floatation
Belt Pack.
http://www.orvis.com/store/product_c...dir_id=758&gro
up_id=10758&cat_id=10769&subcat_id=10770&feature_i d=17 -tom




I know there's the age-old debate about whether full waders impede motion
in the water. My own opinion is that they can't make things easier, and
that there is the potential that the wearer can get pushed about like a
boat with a drift sock.

I suspect, but can't be sure, that the biggest contributing factors to
many such tragic incidents are poor swimming skills in conjunction with
simple panic. I might look into the SOSpenders, eventually. I looked at
a wading staff as a c-note well spent on personal safety. I am concerned
that these inflatable PFD's might get in my way, though.
--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Poor swimming skills and panic attack might best describe me. I can swim,
but not in a fast moving current, and I have a feeling I would panic no
matter how much I try to keep myself calm. I think I'm going to do it, buy
the SOS Inflatable Floatation Belt Pack. I fish a lot of fast moving rivers.

I saw a documentary on survival, where this well fit male backpacker in his
30's had to float down a river for 1.5 miles in a medium flowing current by
clinching onto an inflatable pack mounted on the front of his chest. He
made it safe, but at the end of the 1.5 miles, he was pretty exhausted, he
could barely pull himself out of the water.
-tom

I'd definately recommend wearing a chest high belt cinched firm when
wading unknown, suspicios waters. You may slip but the belt *should*
keep the water from filling the waders. There are waders out there that
come with belt loops and a belt or as an optional purchase. I used to
do a lot of surf fishing on Cape Cod, and such a belt was considered a
necessity. It's my humble opinion that with waders full of water a Mark
Spits would have a hard time making it ashore.

Don't feel bad. ANYONE would be entirely justified being scared
birdless in such a situation. Think about using a wading belt as a
matter of habit.

David N.