Fly fishing from a canoe?

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in news:e66jk1$qid$1
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"George Cleveland" wrote in message
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Here's a pic of Bill Mason paddling solo in a tandem boat:

http://www.canoemuseum.net/heritage/images/mason_lg.jpg


Thanks for that link! The canoe museum seems pretty cool, and the next
time I'm up in the great white north, I'll have to try to stop by.

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in news:e67140$7j8$1
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"Jonathan Cook" wrote in message
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Tom Nakashima wrote:

Or you can maneuver the canoe one yard closer.

You never heard of the First Law of Flyfishing?

No matter where you stand, paddle to, wade to, kickboat
to, there's always a better fish rising one yard
further than you can cast.

Jon.

Or as rw has mentioned, making those 60 ft cast when they're 5 ft away.
-tom




Making a 60 ft cast is a problem I hope one day to have.

"scott" wrote in news:1149708958.913317.180560
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Where in NJ will you be fishing? If Central NJ try Round Valley or
Spruce Run Reservoirs. Without the canoe, try Ken Lockwood Gorge on the
South Branch of the Raritan River



I've tried both Round Valley and Spruce Run before, quite a few times, and
love them. I hear the water level has been down a bit the last few years -
has it gotten any better?

Haven't tried Lockwood Gorge yet, but I'll give it a whirl. As I'm in
Edison, I'm guessing at first I'll be on Farrington, which is where I've
done a lot of my fishing in the past, along with Carnegie near Princeton.
Eventually I'll give the Musconetcong a try. The Jersey side of the
Delaware is definitely in the plans. Hoping to get up near Pt Jervis in NY
and/or Matamoras in PA at some point, too.

Um, you rolled your boat (in what sounds like a novice mistake/panic),
didn't get back in the saddle, and now, suggest that this is evidence
that canoes are not good for FFing? Please.
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You make a valid point. I do have a canoeing merit badge from the
middle ages, but you discern correctly that this incident spooked me
some. I did enjoy the canoe and it sure is more versatile than the
pontoon, but I do maintain that is safer and, for me, more comfortable.

Padishar

Wolfgang wrote:
Padishar Creel wrote:

...I do have a wonderful pontoon boat immune to
roll over....

A very dangerous belief. Nothing......NOTHING!......is immune to
rolling over.
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Wolfgang, I stand corrected, you are absolutely correct nothing is
immune to rolling over. That was an unsafe statement by me and my whole
point was safety. Thanks for catching it!

Padishar

Padishar Creel wrote:
Wolfgang wrote:

Padishar Creel wrote:


...I do have a wonderful pontoon boat immune to
roll over....

A very dangerous belief. Nothing......NOTHING!......is immune to
rolling over.

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Wolfgang, I stand corrected, you are absolutely correct nothing is
immune to rolling over. That was an unsafe statement by me and my whole
point was safety. Thanks for catching it!

Padishar

You'd have to do something really extreme to roll a pontoon boat on
stillwater.

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rw wrote:
Padishar Creel wrote:
Wolfgang wrote:

Padishar Creel wrote:


...I do have a wonderful pontoon boat immune to
roll over....

A very dangerous belief. Nothing......NOTHING!......is immune to
rolling over.

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Wolfgang, I stand corrected, you are absolutely correct nothing is
immune to rolling over. That was an unsafe statement by me and my whole
point was safety. Thanks for catching it!

Padishar

You'd have to do something really extreme to roll a pontoon boat on
stillwater.

Well, if you can make wind......um......hm......never mind.

Wolfgang

On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 16:10:04 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

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As to the wind, you will need an anchor, but depending on location, a
homemade "river" anchor (which holds by weight rather than "hooking"
something) can be easily made for a canoe. Take a big coffee or
tomato juice can, fill with concrete, and insert an appropriate
eye-bolt. ...

I use a nylon mesh bag, like what 5 lbs. of onions would
come in, filled with the rocks of the day. At the end of
the day dump out the rocks, fold up your "anchor" and
stuff it in your back pocket.

A good tip, with a caveat, IMO - don't use it where you (or anyone else
who uses what is a good idea) aren't _really_ familiar with the bottom
conditions. One can rip open the typical onion bag with their bare
hands, and so, if were to snag on something, it could rip open and no
more anchor. Kind of a pain, but not really a big deal. OTOH, if
chunks of it went downstream, it could be, literally, a killer, and that
would be a very big deal. I'd offer that a high-strength diver's bag or
cotton-netting bag might be a better option for when bottom conditions
are unknown. If one does use the "onion bag" idea and you feel the
least bit of resistance, IMO it would be better/safer for wildlife to
simply cut your line and have the weighted bag intact.

TC,
R

PK wrote:
(Jonathan Cook) wrote in
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riverman wrote:

I am also a strong proponent of fishing
while standing, even in a canoe, which is why I'd take one over a
kickboat any day (although these days they seem to be selling standing
frames with kickboats).

I know it's me, but I'm having some difficulty picturing that. Would you
basically stand wih your legs spread out, amidship, with your feet wedged
up where the gunwales meet the bottom (on the inside of the canoe, of
course)?

Since I primarily use a setting pole to move my canoe, I spend more
time standing in a canoe than sitting. But when fishing, I am facing
sideways rather than along the length of the boat, so the position is a
bit different.

When poling, I stand with my feet about shoulder width, just to the
inside of the chine (where the sides meet the bottom). I think thats
the position you are imagining in your question. In fact, I run rapids
in that position, often just standing there and letting the canoe 'ski'
down the river under me, turning by leaning....its the closest
experience to flying I can imagine.

When fishing, I stand facing sideways, with my feet shoulder width
apart, but with one leg lightly touching the center thwart just behind
the centerline. The other foot is a little bit forward of centerline,
so I can balance more easily.

Standing in a canoe is actually much more stable than people think;
considerably easier than standing in a moving bus or riding a train.
And you get a real graceful sense of balance while you cast.

--riverman

riverman wrote:
PK wrote:

(Jonathan Cook) wrote in
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riverman wrote:


I am also a strong proponent of fishing

while standing, even in a canoe, which is why I'd take one over a
kickboat any day (although these days they seem to be selling standing
frames with kickboats).

Have you ever fished from a kickboat, Myron?

In my kickboat (Buck's Bag Southfork) I feel like I'm sitting nearly as
high as I'd be standing in a canoe. My ass is about a foot above water
level. You sit MUCH higher than in a float tube.

Once again, my objection to solo canoes and kayaks for flyfishing is
that you can't control them while you're fishing. In a dead calm that's
no big deal. With even a breath of wind it's a very big deal.

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