Fly fishing from a canoe?

I would probably get a 9' #5 or #6 line rod. Go to the larger 6 weight rod
if you are thinking more of black bass and trout.

One of the secrets of fly casting from a canoe is to not use your body while
cating.

Be sure to keep a life vest on at all time sin a canoe.

See if you can find someone here on this news group who can give you some
casting lessons.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


"Pete Knox" wrote in message
...

I've been a spinner fisherman for a bit of a while, and would like to get
started in flyfishing. I will be moving back to NJ in about a month, and
will mostly be fishing medium to large sized lakes. I have a free canoe,
that was given to my dad. I believe it is about 14', but I'm not 100%
sure. I have experience spin fishing from a canoe, but wonder how
practical it is to flyfish from one. Do I need to go up/down in line
weight and/or rod length/action to accomodate sitting down? I do also
plan
on doing some stream fishing for trout(where I'll wade) and was planning
on
a 5 or 6 wt, 8.5 to 9' medium-fast action rod. I was hoping I could use
the same rod on the lake in the canoe - where I would go after trout,
smallmouth, and the occasional other species (if lucky ). Is that
possible? Will it be harder as a beginner to learn to cast from the boat?

Lots of questions, I know.

Thanks in advance,

Pete Knox

PS: Chico Fernandez and flip Pallot fly fish from canoes a lot. they fly
fish in the EVerglades in FL for Snook, Tarpon and Black Bass in the back
country. They us a 16' by 36" cottage canoe that is flat bottom and usually
has a small keel. They stand and use a 12' pole if it is less than 4 feet
deep.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


"Pete Knox" wrote in message
...
I've been a spinner fisherman for a bit of a while, and would like to get
started in flyfishing. I will be moving back to NJ in about a month, and
will mostly be fishing medium to large sized lakes. I have a free canoe,
that was given to my dad. I believe it is about 14', but I'm not 100%
sure. I have experience spin fishing from a canoe, but wonder how
practical it is to flyfish from one. Do I need to go up/down in line
weight and/or rod length/action to accomodate sitting down? I do also
plan
on doing some stream fishing for trout(where I'll wade) and was planning
on
a 5 or 6 wt, 8.5 to 9' medium-fast action rod. I was hoping I could use
the same rod on the lake in the canoe - where I would go after trout,
smallmouth, and the occasional other species (if lucky ). Is that
possible? Will it be harder as a beginner to learn to cast from the boat?

Lots of questions, I know.

Thanks in advance,

Pete Knox

"riverman" wrote in
oups.com:

Since I primarily use a setting pole to move my canoe, I spend more
time standing in a canoe than sitting. But when fishing, I am facing
sideways rather than along the length of the boat, so the position is
a bit different.

When poling, I stand with my feet about shoulder width, just to the
inside of the chine (where the sides meet the bottom). I think thats
the position you are imagining in your question. In fact, I run rapids
in that position, often just standing there and letting the canoe
'ski' down the river under me, turning by leaning....its the closest
experience to flying I can imagine.

When fishing, I stand facing sideways, with my feet shoulder width
apart, but with one leg lightly touching the center thwart just behind
the centerline. The other foot is a little bit forward of centerline,
so I can balance more easily.

Standing in a canoe is actually much more stable than people think;
considerably easier than standing in a moving bus or riding a train.
And you get a real graceful sense of balance while you cast.

--riverman



Thanks for the clarification. I'll have to give that a try, as it does
sound like fun.

Jonathan Cook wrote:

But, there's no doubt kickboats have some advantages, and getting
to use all four limbs on your body is one of them. As KenF
said, they're utilitarian.

To Ken that's a bad word.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
oups.com...


who can only try to imagine what the occasional moment of
self-realization must be like for them.


That statement alone makes my head hurt.

--riverman
"everything I say is a lie"

"rw" wrote in message
m...
Tom Nakashima wrote:

Ok, I know what a pontoon is, but didn't know it was the same as a kick
boat.
What I thought a "kick boat" looks like:
http://www.boatersworld.com/product/366975449.htm

That's a pedal boat, not a kick (pontoon) boat. It doesn't look like it'd
be practical for flyfishing.


Its not. They had them on Lak du ma Valee in Congo, and I tried fishing from
one as it was impossible to fish from shore. I ended ruining a good fly line
because it got all tangled in the pedals and got grease all over it. Never
even got a strike.

--riverman
Who says stupidity knows no bounds? I've seen the far side of that line.

riverman wrote:

Its not. They had them on Lak du ma Valee in Congo, and I tried fishing from
one as it was impossible to fish from shore. I ended ruining a good fly line
because it got all tangled in the pedals and got grease all over it. Never
even got a strike.

--riverman
Who says stupidity knows no bounds? I've seen the far side of that line.

http://www.econ.psu.edu/~dshapiro/Pi..._ma_Vallee.htm

--
John Russell aka JR

riverman wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
m...

Tom Nakashima wrote:

Ok, I know what a pontoon is, but didn't know it was the same as a kick
boat.
What I thought a "kick boat" looks like:
http://www.boatersworld.com/product/366975449.htm

That's a pedal boat, not a kick (pontoon) boat. It doesn't look like it'd
be practical for flyfishing.



Its not. They had them on Lak du ma Valee in Congo, and I tried fishing from
one as it was impossible to fish from shore. I ended ruining a good fly line
because it got all tangled in the pedals and got grease all over it. Never
even got a strike.

--riverman
Who says stupidity knows no bounds? I've seen the far side of that line.

One of the most exasperating things that can happen in a kickboat is to
get your line tangled around your fins. It's very easy to do, especially
when stripping a sinking line, and it's the devil to untangle. A
stripping basket helps a lot in preventing a tangle, but it can still
happen if you're inattentive. If you hook a strong fish while tangled
you're screwed.

When I hook a fish and get it near the boat I lift my fins out of the
water and onto the frame rests to avoid snarling. That's another
advantage, among many, that a kick boat has over a float tube.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. net...
rw wrote:
Tom Nakashima wrote:
"rw" wrote:
SNIP

Kick boats are clumsy, graceless, utilitarian craft,
canoes are expressions of timeless elegance and beauty.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Your assessment of canoes is correct. Your observation on kick boats is not.
And as you did not state this was your opinion I assume you are putting the
statement forward as fact, which it is not. There are far too many fishing
situations were a canoe may be asthetically pleasing but completely
impractical and more than a little difficult to fish from.

Overall the statement indicates the qualities of the fisherman. Elitist.

BTW, since you appear to be a canoeist, unless you happen to own a hand
built, solid wood, classic Old Towne your statement is way off base and your
just a canoe wannabe.


--
Ric Hamel
A poor$, poor$ fishing freak living in the GWN

Alaskan420 wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. net...
rw wrote:
Tom Nakashima wrote:
"rw" wrote:
SNIP

Kick boats are clumsy, graceless, utilitarian craft,
canoes are expressions of timeless elegance and beauty.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Your assessment of canoes is correct. Your observation on kick boats
is not. And as you did not state this was your opinion I assume you
are putting the statement forward as fact, which it is not. There are
far too many fishing situations were a canoe may be asthetically
pleasing but completely impractical and more than a little difficult
to fish from.

Overall the statement indicates the qualities of the fisherman.
Elitist.

BTW, since you appear to be a canoeist, unless you happen to own a
hand built, solid wood, classic Old Towne your statement is way off
base and your just a canoe wannabe.

OMFG.

I would rather drink beer with an expat Southern CA conservative in a
liberal college town beer mecca than try to respond to this.
--
Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps
(everything I say about riverman is a lie)