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![]() "slenon" wrote The contest was never with companions or others who had been there before me. It was always with myself, That's exactly how I felt about climbing. I've been very happy with myself when I backed off a move that logic told me was too physically risky, even though I was afraid of seeming the coward to "friends". And, I've been very proud of myself for quieting the physical fear, forcing the trembling to stop, and making a sanely protected but very difficult and scary move. I've been very displeased with Larry when he came down off a climb that was reasonably safe and within his ability because he gave into physical fear. And, I've been ****ed at myself for making a stupidly risky move because I gave into the fear of peer pressure more than logic. I've never felt good around mirrors after giving into fear, regardless of what type fear. I never came even close to "bleeding edge" rock climbing, but I did push my own limits very hard, and I feel good about having that in my past. But, as I age, and give into fears that I would never have had when younger, I am finding it somewhat emotionally difficult to deal with .... but it's what I now am, ..... I can't pretend to be otherwise. |
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Larry:
I've been very displeased with Larry when he came down off a climb that was reasonably safe and within his ability because he gave into physical fear. And, I've been ****ed at myself for making a stupidly risky move because I gave into the fear of peer pressure more than logic. I've never felt good around mirrors after giving into fear, regardless of what type fear. Yes, but you mention falls in your previous post. Like you, I climbed for myself, not for endorsements or recognition. I was privileged to climb in some great areas and because of that, doomed to take some serious falls. Unless one is a rock gymnast, and I was not, that peeling off moment when gravity claims its own power is guaranteed to make you question your own sanity. And the impact at the end of the fall is never as easy on your spine as you hope. Then there is the nagging question of the rope on some edge and the hope that protection will stay in place. I could never do the free climbs. I've helped carry off those who did. It bothered me but not as much as seeing myself lying as they fell. The peer pressure is tremendous among climbers and we always wonder if we could have made the crux move that someone else led. But, as I age, and give into fears that I would never have had when younger, I am finding it somewhat emotionally difficult to deal with .... but it's what I now am, ..... I can't pretend to be otherwise. It is annoying to look back and find that we were different then. To me it's become a question of durability. As you say, as we both know, while we may acknowledge the fears, our bodies are also doing a damned good job of telling us when we have to quit. It's no longer the path that troubles us as much as the nasty little realization that there may be an end to the path. Having said all that, it would be good to sit and spin climbing and other yarns with you. I've read much of what you've posted since I arrived and do believe we'd enjoy fishing and yarning together. ---- Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69 Drowning flies to Darkstar Save a cow, eat a PETA http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm |
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![]() "slenon" wrote good to sit and spin climbing and other yarns with you. I seem to run into lots of "used to climb" fisher guys This summer I bought some Patagonia flats pants ( really comfy in hot weather and I like doing biz with them, their eco-policy is top rate ) at Blue Ribbon. True to my grumpy nature I was bitching about the price and made a comment something to the effect " I can remember when Yvon Chouinard was a Camp 4 bum blacksmithing pitons, now he's probably a billionaire because of gullible fly fishermen" Turns out John Jurachek who was selling me the pants used to climb. The fall that stoped my climbing was a loose rock deal, I was resting, after the move of a short climb. I felt funny, looked down, and simply wasn't attached anymore, my toe holds had just popped out.. After about 15 or so feet ( it was bolt protected I was in little danger) I instinctively stuck out my right foot trying to catch a ledge about 2 inches wide. You've been there and can guess what two inches of ledge did to that foot after 15 or more free falling feet ...bent it nearly off my leg .... crutches for a long, long, time, limp to this day. And I never felt comfortable again, on the rock, "What if this hold popped off, what about that one on the next move?" I'm not far from Yosemite ( usually great rock), but the fall was in the winter at Pinnacles Nat Mon.(known for crappy rock ) I still have a bag full of biners, stoppers and chocks, pitons ( yep I'm that old ) a pair of EB's, a pair of PA's .... I keep thinking of leaving them at the base of that dome by Tenaya Lake with a note "free to good home" when I go to fish Hot creek and Crowley, but I'd probably get arrested for littering G |
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And I never felt comfortable again, on the rock, "What if this hold popped
off, what about that one on the next move?" Truly a scary tale. I can imagine the anatomical damage. And the tendency to anticipate that happening again would make it hard to take a risk or set foot on rock. My falling stories aren't that bad. Mostly rock rash and assorted scars, scrapes, and avulsions. The fall that really got to me was on army laid rope. Several pieces of questionable protection zippered out and I honestly think I left footprints in the dust at the base of the route before that damned laid rope snapped tight and pulled me up again. But I quit mostly because of age, older injuries, and location. I finally found I wasn't using my gear and sold most of it. Saved three pitons ( I'm that old too ), an Army oval steel biner, a couple aluminum locking biners and a rurp that took a hard fall and stayed put. They sit on a shelf in the front room next to my slide rule and my flint and steel kit from my black powder days. The climbing - fly fishing juxtaposition may have to do with an appreciation for nature. The climbers I learned from were interested in the whole outdoor package, camping, hunting, fishing, mountaineering. Then I ran into the rock jocks as they became more apparent. Seeing somebody carry power tools to bolt routes just sickens me. Yeah, they can outclimb me, likely even without their tools. And maybe they can outfish me too. But they don't appreciate the rock, the land, or the fish. Trophy climbers, just like trophy hunters, fishers, and road sign shooters are from a different ethos. You have a great backyard if you live near Yosemite. I was going to interview at the federal hospital there but I met Gloria and came east instead. Such is fortune! ---- Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69 Drowning flies to Darkstar Save a cow, eat a PETA http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm |
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