why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater ?

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Dan, danl, Redbeard uh Greybeard now wrote:
"duty-honor-country" wrote:
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ps- my spinning reel is a Shimano 4000 that handles up to 12 lb. line.
I see absolutely no advantage to a baitcaster using 12 pound line in
comparison, and a lot of aggravation from backlash tangles with the
latter. ...

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Two, from your rantings I would place you in the troll catigory...The
real poor skills, semi-intelegent dweeb type troll. I do not have to
put forth anything more than your rantings to prove this point, you
have done all the work for me. ...

Damn man, that's harsh. Mr. d-h-c sounds to me like an
opinionated old cuss looking for an argument. Kinda like
a lot of fishermen I know. Usenet isn't very conducive to
the kind of arguments that would seem perfectly OK when
seated next to someone at the bar quaffing a brew. I'm
willing to give Mr. d-h-c the benefit of the doubt and
if I disagreed with him I'd argue it with him with a good
nature and my tongue in cheek. But I tried to cast with my
Dad's old Ambasseuder 5000 and never could get the hang of
the damn thing, so I basically agree with Mr. d-h-c. 1/2 :-)

--
Ken Fortenberry


thanks !!

not opinionated, just scratching my head and wondering "where's the
beef" with this contraption.

FWIW, I could buy the best rod and reel made on the planet today- and
it would be like pocket change to me. But I have a funny feeling it
would give only slightly better results. These baitcasters obviously
need very heavy lures and line to make them cast with minimal hassle.
I just don't see the advantage in a lake where the biggest fish is a 6
or 8 pound bass. My spinning reel will take that no problem.

DHC wrote--
FWIW, I could buy the best rod and reel made on the planet today- and
it would be like pocket change to me. But I have a funny feeling it
would give only slightly better results. These baitcasters obviously
need very heavy lures and line to make them cast with minimal hassle.
I just don't see the advantage in a lake where the biggest fish is a 6
or 8 pound bass. My spinning reel will take that no problem.


.. Hookesets are better IMO, accuracy and distance all improve when I'm using
a baitcaster. I also think I can work baits better with a baitcaster. I can
put baits in places that I'm unable to do with a spinning set up, and
backlash's are limited when you learn to use the tools properly. JMO

Alwaysfishking wrote:
DHC wrote--
FWIW, I could buy the best rod and reel made on the planet today- and
it would be like pocket change to me. But I have a funny feeling it
would give only slightly better results. These baitcasters obviously
need very heavy lures and line to make them cast with minimal hassle.
I just don't see the advantage in a lake where the biggest fish is a 6
or 8 pound bass. My spinning reel will take that no problem.


. Hookesets are better IMO, accuracy and distance all improve when I'm using
a baitcaster. I also think I can work baits better with a baitcaster. I can
put baits in places that I'm unable to do with a spinning set up, and
backlash's are limited when you learn to use the tools properly. JMO

thanks for the honest, non-flame answer. We just came back today from
another hour and a half fishing nearby, using the baitcasting reel. I
did notice that hits are easier to detect for some reason with it. I
now have 15 lb. test on it and caught 8 panfish just now, using
nightwalkers and a bottom weight. There's a few large catfish there
that we can see, but could not hook one. Released all the fish- the
casting is getting better and further. For comparison I brought along
my spinning rig with a wooden plug- still able to cast much further
with the spinning reel and more accurately.

"duty-honor-country" wrote in message
casting is getting better and further. For comparison I brought along
my spinning rig with a wooden plug- still able to cast much further
with the spinning reel and more accurately.


You never said what type of casting reel you are using or what type rod it's
mounted on. That would make a difference in your ability to cast acurately
as well as for distance.. It might be that your using a cheaper or older
baitcaster. Technology has come a long way, but it's not cheap. My next reel
will most likey be a Diawa ventro? I saw this reel the other day and it has
a sweet little jigging button right over the spool, just tap it with your
thumb and it reels up a bit of line, looks great for pulling in slack and
working worms and jigs, roughly around 200.00

Alwaysfishking wrote:
"duty-honor-country" wrote in message
casting is getting better and further. For comparison I brought along
my spinning rig with a wooden plug- still able to cast much further
with the spinning reel and more accurately.


You never said what type of casting reel you are using or what type rod it's
mounted on. That would make a difference in your ability to cast acurately
as well as for distance.. It might be that your using a cheaper or older
baitcaster. Technology has come a long way, but it's not cheap. My next reel
will most likey be a Diawa ventro? I saw this reel the other day and it has
a sweet little jigging button right over the spool, just tap it with your
thumb and it reels up a bit of line, looks great for pulling in slack and
working worms and jigs, roughly around 200.00

Yes, earlier in the thread I stated it's a Shimano open faced spinning
reel with fighting drag-

and now that you ask, it is an Abu Garcia graphite rod.

"duty-honor-country" wrote in message
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Alwaysfishking wrote:
"duty-honor-country" wrote in message
casting is getting better and further. For comparison I brought along
my spinning rig with a wooden plug- still able to cast much further
with the spinning reel and more accurately.


You never said what type of casting reel you are using or what type rod
it's
mounted on. That would make a difference in your ability to cast
acurately
as well as for distance.. It might be that your using a cheaper or older
baitcaster. Technology has come a long way, but it's not cheap. My next
reel
will most likey be a Diawa ventro? I saw this reel the other day and it
has
a sweet little jigging button right over the spool, just tap it with your
thumb and it reels up a bit of line, looks great for pulling in slack and
working worms and jigs, roughly around 200.00

Yes, earlier in the thread I stated it's a Shimano open faced spinning
reel with fighting drag-

and now that you ask, it is an Abu Garcia graphite rod.

But, what kind of Abu Garcia graphite rod? What is the power rating, what
is the line rating, what is the lure weight range and is it a moderate, fast
or extra-fast taper? All that information should be on the label of the
rod.

Now, what brand and model of baitcast reel?
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
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G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
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