Off to the Mountains

Dave LaCourse wrote:
On 7 Aug 2006 15:27:19 GMT, (Jonathan Cook) wrote:


Maybe that's unfair
because I was using 3x leader, as opposed to 5x/6x on the SJ,
but well, I wasn't impressed.


I caught some pinks, fresh from the ocean, while in Alaska, and I
wasn't impressed either. Small fish, less than 24 inches, and they
didn't fight as much as, say, a silver of the same size.

I caught an eight pound pink on the Skagit, fishing with Warren and Chas
and Andy. It was one of the hardest-to-land freshwater fish I've ever
experienced. I foul hooked it in the hump and it got sideways in a heavy
current. :-)

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Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 12:54:43 -0400, William Claspy
wrote:


Anyhow, I think George said they'd be hiking in 30 miles, not that he'd be
30 miles from the nearest road.


It was Tom that will be doing the hiking. The Middle Fork of the
Salmon, as rw has stated, has a trail that is about 100 miles long.
While fishing it several years ago, my grandson and I encountered a
young man on horseback with a second pack horse. He was heading south
and had been on the trail for several days, stopping to fish/camp
along the way. It's times like that when I feel that I wasted my
youth. Ahhhh, to be young again.....

Well, I'm almost 60 and I take my horses down that trail often (in fact
I'm going tomorrow), but I never go the whole way or even close to it.
It's a great trail because, compared to most trails in these mountains,
there's not a lot of elevation gain/loss. The only problem is that in
many parts it wanders far from the river. There are also some pretty
scary parts.

Another good trail goes 30 miles down Loon Creek to the Middle Fork.

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On 8/7/06 2:14 PM, in article , "Tom
Nakashima" wrote:

There's a group (purist) of us cyclist that have been riding since the 60's,
we ride without a helmet.
We tend to train on mountain roads with very little traffic.
None of us have never had a accident that resulted in a head injury.

It just struck (sorry :-) me that this is sort of the Britney Spears
driving-with-a-baby-in-my-lap defense. "My daddy did it with me and I'm OK,
so it's OK for me to do it."

Or "I've driven my car without my seatbelt on for thirty years and I've
never been hurt, nor anyone in my family, so it is OK to be in a car without
a seatbelt."

That said, my best friend rides without a helmet much of the time. He was
concussed after being struck (hit and run) by a car last fall. He wears a
helmet more frequently now, but still not all the time.

That's my counter-anecdotal evidence. :-)

Within the limits of the law (or your willingness to go against that law)
you are free to do what you choose. I choose to wear a helmet 100% of the
time I'm on my bike.

Bill

Tom Nakashima wrote:

Yup no helmet, except when riding sponsored rides where helmets are
required.
There's a group (purist) of us cyclist that have been riding since the 60's,
we ride without a helmet.
We tend to train on mountain roads with very little traffic.
None of us have never had a accident that resulted in a head injury.
We've also been around and around with the cycling community about riding
without a helmet so we've heard everything already many times over.
The law states here in California that anyone age 18 and under must wear a
helmet.
Yes, planning to hit 54 someday,

You should go all the way and ride in this event:

http://www.zombietime.com/world_naked_bike_ride_2006/

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William Claspy typed:
On 8/7/06 2:14 PM, in article , "Tom
Nakashima" wrote:

There's a group (purist) of us cyclist that have been riding since
the 60's, we ride without a helmet.
We tend to train on mountain roads with very little traffic.
None of us have never had a accident that resulted in a head injury.

It just struck (sorry :-) me that this is sort of the Britney Spears
driving-with-a-baby-in-my-lap defense. "My daddy did it with me and
I'm OK, so it's OK for me to do it."

Or "I've driven my car without my seatbelt on for thirty years and
I've never been hurt, nor anyone in my family, so it is OK to be in a
car without a seatbelt."

That said, my best friend rides without a helmet much of the time.
He was concussed after being struck (hit and run) by a car last fall.
He wears a helmet more frequently now, but still not all the time.

That's my counter-anecdotal evidence. :-)

Within the limits of the law (or your willingness to go against that
law) you are free to do what you choose. I choose to wear a helmet
100% of the time I'm on my bike.

I've found that wearing a helmet, pads, and whatever other protection you
can find 100% of the time, whether or not a bike is involved, will eliminate
even more injuries. A friend of mine was sitting at work and had a 275lb
linebacker come out of nowhere and slam into him. If he hadn't been wearing
his full-body-bubble at the time, well, who knows. . .

That's my ridiculously-untrue-counter-counter-anecdotal evidence.
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TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj

"rw" wrote in message
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Tom Nakashima wrote:

Yup no helmet, except when riding sponsored rides where helmets are
required.
There's a group (purist) of us cyclist that have been riding since the
60's, we ride without a helmet.
We tend to train on mountain roads with very little traffic.
None of us have never had a accident that resulted in a head injury.
We've also been around and around with the cycling community about riding
without a helmet so we've heard everything already many times over.
The law states here in California that anyone age 18 and under must wear
a helmet.
Yes, planning to hit 54 someday,

You should go all the way and ride in this event:

http://www.zombietime.com/world_naked_bike_ride_2006/


I'm laughing,
on my 50th B-day, my cycling friends told me they were going to take me to
someplace special.
So they blind-folded me and brought me unknowingly to a place called Lupin
Resort in the Santa Cruz Mountains, CA We have ridden by the nudist resort
many times when training in the hills, and jokingly I said we should all
visit there someday.
All I could hear was giggling and snickering and a lot of voices....even
splashing.
As they were singing happy-Bday to me, they removed my blindfold.
Everyone was stark naked except for me....so I said; "Oh what the hell and
shed my clothes too!"
Sorry no pictures on this one, but I'll have to say, some of the woman
cyclist half my age young were in great shape.

More OT: Jean, a gal I ride with sometimes (yup, half my age young) when
climbing hills on a bike, she makes this heavy breathing sound as if she's
having sex. Despite her great bod, I enjoy riding along side or behind her,
but I'll have to say, it's very difficult at times getting out of the saddle
to climb...men can't hide it as well as women can. ;-)
-tom
-tom

"Tim J." wrote in message
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William Claspy typed:
On 8/7/06 2:14 PM, in article , "Tom
Nakashima" wrote:

There's a group (purist) of us cyclist that have been riding since
the 60's, we ride without a helmet.
We tend to train on mountain roads with very little traffic.
None of us have never had a accident that resulted in a head injury.

It just struck (sorry :-) me that this is sort of the Britney Spears
driving-with-a-baby-in-my-lap defense. "My daddy did it with me and
I'm OK, so it's OK for me to do it."


I kindda wish Britney was at my 50th B-day.



Or "I've driven my car without my seatbelt on for thirty years and
I've never been hurt, nor anyone in my family, so it is OK to be in a
car without a seatbelt."

That said, my best friend rides without a helmet much of the time.
He was concussed after being struck (hit and run) by a car last fall.
He wears a helmet more frequently now, but still not all the time.

That's my counter-anecdotal evidence. :-)


There's a nurse here a Stanford also a cyclist who always ask me what part
of my body am I donating?
I always tease her and say; "would you like me to show you grin?



Within the limits of the law (or your willingness to go against that
law) you are free to do what you choose. I choose to wear a helmet
100% of the time I'm on my bike.

And I applaud you!


I've found that wearing a helmet, pads, and whatever other protection you
can find 100% of the time, whether or not a bike is involved, will
eliminate even more injuries. A friend of mine was sitting at work and had
a 275lb linebacker come out of nowhere and slam into him. If he hadn't
been wearing his full-body-bubble at the time, well, who knows. . .

That's my ridiculously-untrue-counter-counter-anecdotal evidence.
--
TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj

Whoo, saved me a lot of space here Tim....
btw, that wasn't the Fridge was it that plowed into your friend?
-tom

"Jonathan Cook" wrote in message
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Tom Nakashima wrote:

Jon, the key is staying in shape all year around.

I'd love to but it simply doesn't rise to high enough
priority year-round. I live a pretty active life but when
I'm not jogging my cardio-vascular stamina drops considerably.

I'm age 52.

I'm not ;-)

Jon.

The only reason why I like to stay in shape all year around, because if I
lay off in the winter, it's a pain to get back in shape come March-May
(takes me two months to get my cycling form back).
-tom

On 7 Aug 2006 19:36:13 GMT, (Jonathan Cook) wrote:

Tom Nakashima wrote:

Jon, the key is staying in shape all year around.

I'd love to but it simply doesn't rise to high enough
priority year-round. I live a pretty active life but when
I'm not jogging my cardio-vascular stamina drops considerably.

I'm age 52.

I'm not ;-)

Jon.

Hell, at age 69, I'm just happy to *have* cardio vascular. d;o)

Tom Nakashima wrote:



What you need Dave is a 20 yr old Britney Spears look-alike to remind you
how much fun 69 really is.
ps- take the bottom!
-tom



um...you've not met ms. lacourse. the old fart is reminded on a daily
basis. g

jeff