Which fly for this situation?

Next week I'll be at a large Adirondack lake. At one particular spot, a
stream dumps over a 50' ledge into this lake, so there's perhaps an acre of
water that's cooler than the surrounding area, and I've caught the
occasional rainbow there using Mepps spinners or similar things. This year,
I'd like to try the spot with a fly rod. The water's pretty turbulent for
about 50 feet around the falls, so if trout are surface feeding, I've never
been able to see it. What sorts of flies would be a good starting point for
experimenting in a spot like this?

I'd prefer something that is 100% resistant to wind knots.

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
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The water's pretty turbulent for
about 50 feet around the falls, so if trout are surface feeding, I've
never been able to see it. What sorts of flies would be a good
starting point for experimenting in a spot like this?



Wooly Bugger.


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Scott
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.....I would second this suggestion...but would have some weight to it.

Barry

"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
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The water's pretty turbulent for
about 50 feet around the falls, so if trout are surface feeding, I've
never been able to see it. What sorts of flies would be a good
starting point for experimenting in a spot like this?



Wooly Bugger.


--
Scott
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The guy at the fly shop agreed with the weight idea. He & his wife did NOT
agree on color, so I read two books and a magazine, and waxed my car while
they argued about it. Then, I bought both their suggestions.


"hiouchibear" wrote in message
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....I would second this suggestion...but would have some weight to it.

Barry

"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
:

The water's pretty turbulent for
about 50 feet around the falls, so if trout are surface feeding, I've
never been able to see it. What sorts of flies would be a good
starting point for experimenting in a spot like this?



Wooly Bugger.


--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

JoeSpareBedroom typed:
The guy at the fly shop agreed with the weight idea. He & his wife
did NOT agree on color, so I read two books and a magazine, and waxed
my car while they argued about it. Then, I bought both their
suggestions.

Details, man - we need details. First and foremost, which books? What kind
of car? Which car wax, and was it applied with a clockwise or
counter-clockwise rotation? AAR's need to know these things.

Oh, and (not that it matters much) did you catch any fish?
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TL,
Tim
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"Tim J." wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom typed:
The guy at the fly shop agreed with the weight idea. He & his wife
did NOT agree on color, so I read two books and a magazine, and waxed
my car while they argued about it. Then, I bought both their
suggestions.

Details, man - we need details. First and foremost, which books? What kind
of car? Which car wax, and was it applied with a clockwise or
counter-clockwise rotation? AAR's need to know these things.

Oh, and (not that it matters much) did you catch any fish?
--
TL,
Tim

Haven't left for the lake yet! Speaking of books, "The Founding Fish", by
John McPhee is worth reading. The chapter about catch & release will ****
off almost everybody.

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
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The guy at the fly shop agreed with the weight idea. He & his wife did
NOT agree on color, so I read two books and a magazine, and waxed my
car while they argued about it. Then, I bought both their suggestions.

Should have bought a cheap vise, some chenille, two streamer necks, and
some hooks. Wooly Buggers are an EXCELLENT way to get into fly tying.
Depending on the vise, about 30-60 flies is your break-even point, and you
have the privilege of playing around for months figuring out what subtle
variation works for you.

I like a conehead weighted bugger, with green variegated chenille and a few
strands of flashabou down the sides.

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Scott
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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
:

The guy at the fly shop agreed with the weight idea. He & his wife did
NOT agree on color, so I read two books and a magazine, and waxed my
car while they argued about it. Then, I bought both their suggestions.

Should have bought a cheap vise, some chenille, two streamer necks, and
some hooks. Wooly Buggers are an EXCELLENT way to get into fly tying.
Depending on the vise, about 30-60 flies is your break-even point, and you
have the privilege of playing around for months figuring out what subtle
variation works for you.

I like a conehead weighted bugger, with green variegated chenille and a
few
strands of flashabou down the sides.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

That'll happen this winter. No time to deal with it before the trip. Blame
the broken garage door opener for the missing hours.

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:05:03 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Next week I'll be at a large Adirondack lake. At one particular spot, a
stream dumps over a 50' ledge into this lake, so there's perhaps an acre of
water that's cooler than the surrounding area, and I've caught the
occasional rainbow there using Mepps spinners or similar things. This year,
I'd like to try the spot with a fly rod. The water's pretty turbulent for
about 50 feet around the falls, so if trout are surface feeding, I've never
been able to see it. What sorts of flies would be a good starting point for
experimenting in a spot like this?

I'd prefer something that is 100% resistant to wind knots.

Cast a streamer into the bubbles. Make sure it gets down (sinking
line). Suggested streamers: Grey Ghost, Black Ghost, Muddler, or any
Bugger. You might also try nymphs with a floating line, using split
shot to get it down. Again, cast into the bubbles.

Flies don't cause wind knots. d;o)

Dave

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:05:03 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Next week I'll be at a large Adirondack lake. At one particular spot, a
stream dumps over a 50' ledge into this lake, so there's perhaps an acre
of
water that's cooler than the surrounding area, and I've caught the
occasional rainbow there using Mepps spinners or similar things. This
year,
I'd like to try the spot with a fly rod. The water's pretty turbulent for
about 50 feet around the falls, so if trout are surface feeding, I've
never
been able to see it. What sorts of flies would be a good starting point
for
experimenting in a spot like this?

I'd prefer something that is 100% resistant to wind knots.

Cast a streamer into the bubbles. Make sure it gets down (sinking
line). Suggested streamers: Grey Ghost, Black Ghost, Muddler, or any
Bugger. You might also try nymphs with a floating line, using split
shot to get it down. Again, cast into the bubbles.




Flies don't cause wind knots. d;o)

I know. I was just dreaming that I was in a Disney cartoon where all my
casts were perfect.