More than Half Way Now...

johnval1 wrote:
Fascinating conversation. Both "generations" and "crappie". Let me
recommend "Generations" by Strauss and Howe. It is the definitive read on
the cycles of the 4 recurring generational personalities in Anglo-American
history since the 1500s. I believe it will allow those of you who are
interested in this subject to better understand your generational
differences, the transition between generations, and the experiences which
shape out generational references to life. This book has changed the lives
of many people and it appears to me that some of you will find it worthwhile
as well. Good stuff for those long winter nights.

Since they are outlawing poker online, I may have to read more. Thanks

As for crappie, as of two days ago, I was still catching them on a fly rod
and chartreuse poppers. Also caught a 12" bass on the same popper. I could
not believe a bass would still take a top lure with the weather as cold as
it has been here in MI.


Never heard of someone catching a crappie on a fly rod either.

One of my neighbors lived in Ohio most of his life and when he got here
and caught his first 1 - 2 lb crapppie he said that was a monster in
Ohio worthy of the newspaper. So, I guess the fish are the same but
different.

johnval1 wrote:
Fascinating conversation. Both "generations" and "crappie". Let me
recommend "Generations" by Strauss and Howe. It is the definitive read on
the cycles of the 4 recurring generational personalities in Anglo-American
history since the 1500s. I believe it will allow those of you who are
interested in this subject to better understand your generational
differences, the transition between generations, and the experiences which
shape out generational references to life. This book has changed the lives
of many people and it appears to me that some of you will find it worthwhile
as well. Good stuff for those long winter nights.

I ordered it. Thanks again. I will share it when I get through if
anybody else cares to read it.

Jim

Yes, I'm well aware of different regional names. Many anglers around here
call crappie "strawberry bass." I always try to use official names so as to
avoid any confusion.

The official pronunciation of that fish is CRAP-pee. Lots of guys on TV say
CROP-pee, which I always assumed they did in order to not sound mildly
vulgar.

"Damifino" wrote in message
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"Marty" wrote in message
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"Damifino" wrote in message
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White Perch...Is that what we call Crappie here? There's a Black specie
as well. I've also heard the Striped Bass called a White Perch. I just
call em Stripe regardless of the specie..

I can't speak for other peoples' usage, but the white perch, along with
white bass and striped bass, is a member of the temperate bass family,
which are true bass, and is not the same as crappie.

Black bass (SM, LM, spotted, etc.) are actually members of the sunfish
family, as are the crappie species.


Some people call different fish different names depending on what part of
the country your from. When I was fishing Lake Erie they called what we
call DRUM here SHEEPHEADS...
I have heard crappie called white perch In Louisiana and considering he's
from Mississippi I kind of though it might be crappie.We even pronounce
the word Crappie different than others...We say it like CROP-ie...I've
heard others form the north say it like CRAP-ie...Weird I suppose. Thanks
for the reply...

"Marty" wrote in message
news
Yes, I'm well aware of different regional names. Many anglers around here
call crappie "strawberry bass." I always try to use official names so as
to avoid any confusion.

The official pronunciation of that fish is CRAP-pee. Lots of guys on TV
say CROP-pee, which I always assumed they did in order to not sound mildly
vulgar.

Growing up in Wisconsin, it was always croppee, and that was a long time
before I even thought of being on tv.

I didn't hear crappee until I first fished in Tennessee or watched a
southern fishing show.
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:00:28 -0500, "Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers"
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"Marty" wrote in message
news
Yes, I'm well aware of different regional names. Many anglers around here
call crappie "strawberry bass." I always try to use official names so as
to avoid any confusion.

The official pronunciation of that fish is CRAP-pee. Lots of guys on TV
say CROP-pee, which I always assumed they did in order to not sound mildly
vulgar.

Growing up in Wisconsin, it was always croppee, and that was a long time
before I even thought of being on tv.

I didn't hear crappee until I first fished in Tennessee or watched a
southern fishing show.

What he said, ya der hey.

wrote in message
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Never heard of someone catching a crappie on a fly rod either.

One of my neighbors lived in Ohio most of his life and when he got here
and caught his first 1 - 2 lb crapppie he said that was a monster in
Ohio worthy of the newspaper. So, I guess the fish are the same but
different.


I fush a couple of places that are fairly shallow but hold a good number of
bluegill, crappie, bass, yellow bullhead, little perch, and some pike. Have
caught bluegill, crappie, and bass on the flyrod, all on little poppers or
foam spiders and grasshoppers.

Since they are all top feeders, I figured why not try for them? The largest
crappie to date has been 11" long on the flyrod, and that certainly is no
record, although it was a heck of a lot of fun. When the crappie attack the
poppers and foamies, they always viciously attack from the side with a loud
"snap" at the lure. Then they dive down toward the weeks. They put up a
heck of a fight. I would love to get one of those 2 lb-ers.

Jim, you will find the book both fascinating and frustrating at the same
time. I'm not saying it's an easy read, but it is an eye-opener.

John
wrote in message
ups.com...

I ordered it. Thanks again. I will share it when I get through if
anybody else cares to read it.

Jim

Never heard of someone catching a crape on a fly rod either.

One of my neighbors lived in Ohio most of his life and when he got here
and caught his first 1 - 2 lb crapppie he said that was a monster in
Ohio worthy of the newspaper. So, I guess the fish are the same but
different.


I fush a couple of places that are fairly shallow but hold a good number
of bluegill, crappie, bass, yellow bullhead, little perch, and some pike.
Have caught bluegill, crappie, and bass on the flyrod, all on little
poppers or foam spiders and grasshoppers.

Since they are all top feeders, I figured why not try for them? The
largest crappie to date has been 11" long on the flyrod, and that
certainly is no record, although it was a heck of a lot of fun. When the
crappie attack the poppers and foamies, they always viciously attack from
the side with a loud "snap" at the lure. Then they dive down toward the
weeks. They put up a heck of a fight. I would love to get one of those 2
lb-ers.


I wasn't doubting your validity and I believe your story but here in Alabama
Crappie aint never been caught on a fly rod hitting top water....Maybe it
might be because no one has ever tried..I fish a lot for bluegill and catch
the fool out of them but ive never had crappie to bite on top...I think ill
try it in a couple of weeks. Folks will probably think I been hitting the
bottle out there with a fly rod..Ill let you know what happens..

"Damifino" wrote in message
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I wasn't doubting your validity and I believe your story but here in
Alabama Crappie aint never been caught on a fly rod hitting top
water....Maybe it might be because no one has ever tried..I fish a lot for
bluegill and catch the fool out of them but ive never had crappie to bite
on top...I think ill try it in a couple of weeks. Folks will probably
think I been hitting the bottle out there with a fly rod..Ill let you know
what happens..


LOL. Let me know when you catch that first crappie on a flyrod in AL and
I'll send you a bottle to celebrate!

Regional preferences usually determine how the fish is called. I've heard
pomoxis annularis called sac-au-lait ("sack of milk") in Louisiana,
papermouth in the lower Midwest, and white perch in other places. In East
Tennessee, it's called crappie and is pronounced the way it usually appears
in American dictionaries: 'krä-pE or krp, (or as Marty spelled it, CROP-ee).

To hear the word pronounced, go to:
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?...01.wav=crappie
or:
http://www.bartleby.com/61/68/C0726800.html

As far as "official" goes, I wonder if there really is an official
pronunciation in the U.S. English is a such a fluid language, having words
added, dropped, and changed constantly. The French have "official"
pronunciations for their words, and they fiercely defend their language
against crass Americanisms (e.g., le hot-dog), but I'm not aware that
Americans have yet ascended to the rarified heights of government
bureaucracy where we might have a Federal department responsible for
establishing an "official" pronunciation of crappie.

Joe
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"Marty" wrote in message
news Yes, I'm well aware of different regional names. Many anglers around here
call crappie "strawberry bass." I always try to use official names so as to
avoid any confusion.

The official pronunciation of that fish is CRAP-pee. Lots of guys on TV say
CROP-pee, which I always assumed they did in order to not sound mildly
vulgar.