RIP, ROFB

Let's finally be honest... what is killing this newsgroup is those who keep
telling posters all the things they cannot do & all the thing they consider
to be off topic. I was a welcome poster here until my knowledge of certain
areas of fishing allowed me to go professional, at which time my
contributions became persona non grata to some. That is stupid!

This group can again be great, but posters will have to just quit being
gutless wimps, and instead post what they want regardless of who it might
offend. Unfortunately, this group today is as totally useless as the United
Nations!

Bob Rickard
An intelligent professional who occasionally posts information that may be
useful to some... decide for yourself!
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. com...
Marty wrote:
Never in my 6+ years have I seen such little activity here.
??????????????????????????

It's the top-posting.

The convention in those Usenet newsgroups that are active, vital
and full of activity is the Usenet standard of putting the reply
below the text you're replying to, like I'm doing here.

Too many people in this newsgroup are top-posters and that'll
kill a newsgroup faster than a 6-4-3 kills a big inning.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Bob Rickard wrote:
Let's finally be honest... what is killing this newsgroup is those who keep
telling posters all the things they cannot do & all the thing they consider
to be off topic.

Nah, it's the top-posting. Intelligent denizens of Usenet newsgroups
never top-post and most are put off by having to put up with it.
You won't have a vital, active, busy newsgroup so long as you have a
high percentage of top-posting.

I was a welcome poster here until my knowledge of certain
areas of fishing allowed me to go professional, at which time my
contributions became persona non grata to some. That is stupid!

I didn't know you were unwelcome here or a persona non grata. Are
you sure it doesn't have something to do with being a rabid tool
of the radical right ?

This group can again be great, but posters will have to just quit being
gutless wimps, and instead post what they want regardless of who it might
offend. Unfortunately, this group today is as totally useless as the United
Nations!

How about that Nancy Pelosi, Bob !! Just what we need in Washington,
a tough-minded granny wielding a big-assed Democratic whooping stick !
Woohoo !!

Bob Rickard
An intelligent professional who occasionally posts information that may be
useful to some... decide for yourself!
.................................................. .................................................. ..................

Well, to tell you the truth Bob, this particular post of yours wasn't
all that useful. But that's OK, I'll be happy to toss your old arse
out of my canoe any day. Just say when and I'll be there.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. ..
Bob Rickard wrote:
Let's finally be honest... what is killing this newsgroup is those who
keep telling posters all the things they cannot do & all the thing they
consider to be off topic.

Nah, it's the top-posting. Intelligent denizens of Usenet newsgroups
never top-post and most are put off by having to put up with it.
You won't have a vital, active, busy newsgroup so long as you have a
high percentage of top-posting.

I was a welcome poster here until my knowledge of certain areas of
fishing allowed me to go professional, at which time my contributions
became persona non grata to some. That is stupid!

I didn't know you were unwelcome here or a persona non grata. Are
you sure it doesn't have something to do with being a rabid tool
of the radical right ?

This group can again be great, but posters will have to just quit being
gutless wimps, and instead post what they want regardless of who it
might offend. Unfortunately, this group today is as totally useless as
the United Nations!

How about that Nancy Pelosi, Bob !! Just what we need in Washington,
a tough-minded granny wielding a big-assed Democratic whooping stick !
Woohoo !!

Bob Rickard
An intelligent professional who occasionally posts information that may
be useful to some... decide for yourself!
.................................................. .................................................. ..................

Well, to tell you the truth Bob, this particular post of yours wasn't
all that useful. But that's OK, I'll be happy to toss your old arse
out of my canoe any day. Just say when and I'll be there.

--
Ken Fortenberry

You are a prime example of a horse ass. Bottom posting was the thing with
KSR33's. But that time has passed. Same with VT52's and DEC Vax 780, and
it's forerunners. You could not easily move around the screen and since a
KSR was a paper I/O there was not backing up.

Calif Bill wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Bob Rickard wrote:
Let's finally be honest... what is killing this newsgroup is those who
keep telling posters all the things they cannot do & all the thing they
consider to be off topic.
Nah, it's the top-posting. Intelligent denizens of Usenet newsgroups
never top-post and most are put off by having to put up with it.
You won't have a vital, active, busy newsgroup so long as you have a
high percentage of top-posting.

You are a prime example of a horse ass. ...

Golly Mr. Bill, or can I call you Calif, I guess I have
no choice but to take that as a compliment. Thank you.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
m...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Bob Rickard wrote:
Let's finally be honest... what is killing this newsgroup is those who
keep telling posters all the things they cannot do & all the thing they
consider to be off topic.
Nah, it's the top-posting. Intelligent denizens of Usenet newsgroups
never top-post and most are put off by having to put up with it.
You won't have a vital, active, busy newsgroup so long as you have a
high percentage of top-posting.

You are a prime example of a horse ass. ...

Golly Mr. Bill, or can I call you Calif, I guess I have
no choice but to take that as a compliment. Thank you.

--
Ken Fortenberry

You are welcome.

Ya, what Bill said. Doc (oops, did top post? Darn)
================================================== ===========================

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...
You are a prime example of a horse ass. Bottom posting was the thing with
KSR33's. But that time has passed. Same with VT52's and DEC Vax 780, and
it's forerunners. You could not easily move around the screen and since a
KSR was a paper I/O there was not backing up.

Calif Bill wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. ..
Bob Rickard wrote:
Let's finally be honest... what is killing this newsgroup is those who
keep telling posters all the things they cannot do & all the thing they
consider to be off topic.
Nah, it's the top-posting. Intelligent denizens of Usenet newsgroups
never top-post and most are put off by having to put up with it.
You won't have a vital, active, busy newsgroup so long as you have a
high percentage of top-posting.

I was a welcome poster here until my knowledge of certain areas of
fishing allowed me to go professional, at which time my contributions
became persona non grata to some. That is stupid!
I didn't know you were unwelcome here or a persona non grata. Are
you sure it doesn't have something to do with being a rabid tool
of the radical right ?

This group can again be great, but posters will have to just quit being
gutless wimps, and instead post what they want regardless of who it
might offend. Unfortunately, this group today is as totally useless as
the United Nations!
How about that Nancy Pelosi, Bob !! Just what we need in Washington,
a tough-minded granny wielding a big-assed Democratic whooping stick !
Woohoo !!

Bob Rickard
An intelligent professional who occasionally posts information that may
be useful to some... decide for yourself!
.................................................. .................................................. ..................
Well, to tell you the truth Bob, this particular post of yours wasn't
all that useful. But that's OK, I'll be happy to toss your old arse
out of my canoe any day. Just say when and I'll be there.

--
Ken Fortenberry

You are a prime example of a horse ass. Bottom posting was the thing with
KSR33's. But that time has passed. Same with VT52's and DEC Vax 780, and
it's forerunners. You could not easily move around the screen and since a
KSR was a paper I/O there was not backing up.


Ah, it makes sense to me now. I suppose when the text was loaded it
would scroll immediately to the bottom, probably because the message was
appended to the previous. For the life of me I couldn't see the purpose
of bottom posting, like a previous person had wrote, it is difficult (or
inconvenient) to have to scroll all the way to the bottom through all
the previous messages.
Oh well, at least I can see both sides of the argument now, not that
what I think really matters, but for my own piece of mind I finally
understand :-).

Chris

"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. ..
Bob Rickard wrote:
Let's finally be honest... what is killing this newsgroup is those who
keep telling posters all the things they cannot do & all the thing they
consider to be off topic.
Nah, it's the top-posting. Intelligent denizens of Usenet newsgroups
never top-post and most are put off by having to put up with it.
You won't have a vital, active, busy newsgroup so long as you have a
high percentage of top-posting.

I was a welcome poster here until my knowledge of certain areas of
fishing allowed me to go professional, at which time my contributions
became persona non grata to some. That is stupid!
I didn't know you were unwelcome here or a persona non grata. Are
you sure it doesn't have something to do with being a rabid tool
of the radical right ?

This group can again be great, but posters will have to just quit being
gutless wimps, and instead post what they want regardless of who it
might offend. Unfortunately, this group today is as totally useless as
the United Nations!
How about that Nancy Pelosi, Bob !! Just what we need in Washington,
a tough-minded granny wielding a big-assed Democratic whooping stick !
Woohoo !!

Bob Rickard
An intelligent professional who occasionally posts information that may
be useful to some... decide for yourself!
.................................................. .................................................. ..................
Well, to tell you the truth Bob, this particular post of yours wasn't
all that useful. But that's OK, I'll be happy to toss your old arse
out of my canoe any day. Just say when and I'll be there.

--
Ken Fortenberry

You are a prime example of a horse ass. Bottom posting was the thing
with KSR33's. But that time has passed. Same with VT52's and DEC Vax
780, and it's forerunners. You could not easily move around the screen
and since a KSR was a paper I/O there was not backing up.
Ah, it makes sense to me now. I suppose when the text was loaded it would
scroll immediately to the bottom, probably because the message was
appended to the previous. For the life of me I couldn't see the purpose
of bottom posting, like a previous person had wrote, it is difficult (or
inconvenient) to have to scroll all the way to the bottom through all the
previous messages.
Oh well, at least I can see both sides of the argument now, not that what
I think really matters, but for my own piece of mind I finally understand
:-).

Chris


I know the basics cause I is old. First on ARPANET about 1979 or 80. Was
not WWW, was all ascii and there was some nice ascii art done.

Calif Bill wrote:
"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. ..
Bob Rickard wrote:
Let's finally be honest... what is killing this newsgroup is those who
keep telling posters all the things they cannot do & all the thing they
consider to be off topic.
Nah, it's the top-posting. Intelligent denizens of Usenet newsgroups
never top-post and most are put off by having to put up with it.
You won't have a vital, active, busy newsgroup so long as you have a
high percentage of top-posting.

I was a welcome poster here until my knowledge of certain areas of
fishing allowed me to go professional, at which time my contributions
became persona non grata to some. That is stupid!
I didn't know you were unwelcome here or a persona non grata. Are
you sure it doesn't have something to do with being a rabid tool
of the radical right ?

This group can again be great, but posters will have to just quit being
gutless wimps, and instead post what they want regardless of who it
might offend. Unfortunately, this group today is as totally useless as
the United Nations!
How about that Nancy Pelosi, Bob !! Just what we need in Washington,
a tough-minded granny wielding a big-assed Democratic whooping stick !
Woohoo !!

Bob Rickard
An intelligent professional who occasionally posts information that may
be useful to some... decide for yourself!
.................................................. .................................................. ..................
Well, to tell you the truth Bob, this particular post of yours wasn't
all that useful. But that's OK, I'll be happy to toss your old arse
out of my canoe any day. Just say when and I'll be there.

--
Ken Fortenberry
You are a prime example of a horse ass. Bottom posting was the thing
with KSR33's. But that time has passed. Same with VT52's and DEC Vax
780, and it's forerunners. You could not easily move around the screen
and since a KSR was a paper I/O there was not backing up.
Ah, it makes sense to me now. I suppose when the text was loaded it would
scroll immediately to the bottom, probably because the message was
appended to the previous. For the life of me I couldn't see the purpose
of bottom posting, like a previous person had wrote, it is difficult (or
inconvenient) to have to scroll all the way to the bottom through all the
previous messages.
Oh well, at least I can see both sides of the argument now, not that what
I think really matters, but for my own piece of mind I finally understand
:-).

Chris


I know the basics cause I is old. First on ARPANET about 1979 or 80. Was
not WWW, was all ascii and there was some nice ascii art done.


I jumped on right as bulletin boards were just about dead. I could
still dial on to some, but they were few and far between. I believe it
was 93 or so. Even from that point it is all very different. I guess
when it comes to this stuff, being an IT Manager myself I just have to
roll with the punches. Good times.

Chris

"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. ..
Bob Rickard wrote:
Let's finally be honest... what is killing this newsgroup is those
who keep telling posters all the things they cannot do & all the
thing they consider to be off topic.
Nah, it's the top-posting. Intelligent denizens of Usenet newsgroups
never top-post and most are put off by having to put up with it.
You won't have a vital, active, busy newsgroup so long as you have a
high percentage of top-posting.

I was a welcome poster here until my knowledge of certain areas of
fishing allowed me to go professional, at which time my contributions
became persona non grata to some. That is stupid!
I didn't know you were unwelcome here or a persona non grata. Are
you sure it doesn't have something to do with being a rabid tool
of the radical right ?

This group can again be great, but posters will have to just quit
being gutless wimps, and instead post what they want regardless of
who it might offend. Unfortunately, this group today is as totally
useless as the United Nations!
How about that Nancy Pelosi, Bob !! Just what we need in Washington,
a tough-minded granny wielding a big-assed Democratic whooping stick !
Woohoo !!

Bob Rickard
An intelligent professional who occasionally posts information that
may be useful to some... decide for yourself!
.................................................. .................................................. ..................
Well, to tell you the truth Bob, this particular post of yours wasn't
all that useful. But that's OK, I'll be happy to toss your old arse
out of my canoe any day. Just say when and I'll be there.

--
Ken Fortenberry
You are a prime example of a horse ass. Bottom posting was the thing
with KSR33's. But that time has passed. Same with VT52's and DEC Vax
780, and it's forerunners. You could not easily move around the screen
and since a KSR was a paper I/O there was not backing up.
Ah, it makes sense to me now. I suppose when the text was loaded it
would scroll immediately to the bottom, probably because the message was
appended to the previous. For the life of me I couldn't see the purpose
of bottom posting, like a previous person had wrote, it is difficult (or
inconvenient) to have to scroll all the way to the bottom through all
the previous messages.
Oh well, at least I can see both sides of the argument now, not that
what I think really matters, but for my own piece of mind I finally
understand :-).

Chris


I know the basics cause I is old. First on ARPANET about 1979 or 80.
Was not WWW, was all ascii and there was some nice ascii art done.
I jumped on right as bulletin boards were just about dead. I could still
dial on to some, but they were few and far between. I believe it was 93
or so. Even from that point it is all very different. I guess when it
comes to this stuff, being an IT Manager myself I just have to roll with
the punches. Good times.

Chris

I was a design engineer. Worked my way through college fixing main frames
for NCR and then worked on a printer I/F to IBM 3800 clone to IBM Channel
and then designed disk drive controllers for DEC systems and then disk
drives and then biomedical devices.