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Old November 18th, 2006, 01:06 PM posted to alt.fishing,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,rec.outdoors.fishing
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Default THE MYTH OF DIET AND COLESTEROL (AT THE BOTTOM OF THE POST)

"Rodney Long" wrote in message ...
Rodney Long wrote:

Why are you not condemning, them along with meat ?
Because you don't want man to utilize animals, your looking for anything
to help further your cause,

YOU COULD CARE LESS, ABOUT THE HEALTH OF MANKIND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOW,,,, ADMIT THAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You are the one promoting an unhealthy diet, not me.

'Am J Clin Nutr 1999 Sep;70(3 Suppl):532S-538S
Associations between diet and cancer, ischemic heart disease,
and all-cause mortality in non-Hispanic white California
Seventh-day Adventists.
Fraser GE. Center for Health Research and the Department of
Epidemiology and Biostatistics, Loma Linda University, CA USA.

Results associating diet with chronic disease in a cohort of 34192
California Seventh-day Adventists are summarized. Most Seventh-day
Adventists do not smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol, and there is a wide
range of dietary exposures within the population. About 50% of those
studied ate meat products 1 time/wk or not at all, and vegetarians
consumed more tomatoes, legumes, nuts, and fruit, but less coffee,
doughnuts, and eggs than did nonvegetarians. Multivariate analyses
showed significant associations between beef consumption and fatal
ischemic heart disease (IHD) in men [relative risk (RR) = 2.31 for
subjects who ate beef or =3 times/wk compared with vegetarians],
significant protective associations between nut consumption and fatal
and nonfatal IHD in both sexes (RR approximately 0.5 for subjects
who ate nuts or =5 times/wk compared with those who ate nuts
1 time/wk), and reduced risk of IHD in subjects preferring whole-grain
to white bread. The lifetime risk of IHD was reduced by approximately
31% in those who consumed nuts frequently and by 37% in male
vegetarians compared with nonvegetarians. Cancers of the colon and
prostate were significantly more likely in nonvegetarians (RR of 1.88
and 1.54, respectively), and frequent beef consumers also had higher
risk of bladder cancer. Intake of legumes was negatively associated
with risk of colon cancer in nonvegetarians and risk of pancreatic
cancer. Higher consumption of all fruit or dried fruit was associated
with lower risks of lung, prostate, and pancreatic cancers.
Cross-sectional data suggest vegetarian Seventh-day Adventists have
lower risks of diabetes mellitus, hypertension, and arthritis than
nonvegetarians. Thus, among Seventh-day Adventists, vegetarians are
healthier than nonvegetarians but this cannot be ascribed only to the
absence of meat. - PMID: 10479227'

That ended this cholesterol "crap", and if it didn't, I am well armed ,
Obesity is the number one cause of heart disease, diabetes, and many
cancers.


'New Scientific Review Shows Vegetarian Diets Cause
Major Weight Loss Without Exercise or Calorie Counting
31-03-2006 05:01
WASHINGTON, March 31 /PRNewswire/ --

- Controlled Research Trials Prove Diet's Efficacy

A scientific review in April's Nutrition Reviews shows that a
vegetarian diet is highly effective for weight loss. Vegetarian
populations tend to be slimmer than meat-eaters, and they
experience lower rates of heart disease, diabetes, high blood
pressure, and other life-threatening conditions linked to
overweight and obesity. The new review, compiling data from
87 previous studies, shows the weight-loss effect does not
depend on exercise or calorie-counting, and it occurs at a
rate of approximately 1 pound per week.

Rates of obesity in the general population are skyrocketing,
while in vegetarians, obesity prevalence ranges from 0 percent
to 6 percent, note study authors Susan E. Berkow, Ph.D.,
C.N.S., and Neal D. Barnard, M.D., of the Physicians
Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM).

The authors found that the body weight of both male and
female vegetarians is, on average, 3 percent to 20 percent
lower than that of meat-eaters. Vegetarian and vegan diets
have also been put to the test in clinical studies, as the
review notes. The best of these clinical studies isolated the
effects of diet by keeping exercise constant. The researchers
found that a low-fat vegan diet leads to weight loss of about
1 pound per week, even without additional exercise or limits
on portion sizes, calories, or carbohydrates.

"Our research reveals that people can enjoy unlimited
portions of high-fiber foods such as fruits, vegetables, and
whole grains to achieve or maintain a healthy body weight
without feeling hungry," says Dr. Berkow, the lead author.

"There is evidence that a vegan diet causes an increased
calorie burn after meals, meaning plant-based foods are
being used more efficiently as fuel for the body, as
opposed to being stored as fat," says Dr. Barnard. Insulin
sensitivity is increased by a vegan diet, allowing nutrients
to more rapidly enter the cells of the body to be converted
to heat rather than to fat.

Earlier this month, a team of researchers led by Tim Key
of Oxford University found that meat-eaters who switched
to a plant-based diet gained less weight over a period of
five years. Papers reviewed by Drs. Berkow and Barnard
include several published by Dr. Key and his colleagues,
as well as a recent study of more than 55,000 Swedish
women showing that meat-eaters are more likely to be
overweight than vegetarians and vegans.
...
http://media.netpr.pl/notatka_54444.html

Plants, and the way they are processed into food that people
eat "CAUSE obesity", many plants increase cholesterol levels in humans,
because humans "produce" cholesterol from "plant products they eat",
even if they eat "ZERO" animal fat.


Nonsense.

Hydrogenated fats (made from plants) are the most dangerous fat people
can eat.


'Scientific evidence shows that consumption of saturated fat,
trans fat, and dietary cholesterol raises low-density lipoprotein
(LDL), or "bad cholesterol," levels, which increases the risk
of coronary heart disease (CHD). According to the National
Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute of the National Institutes of
Health, more than 12.5 million Americans have CHD, and
more than 500,000 die each year. That makes CHD one of
the leading causes of death in the United States.
...
Trans fat, like saturated fat and dietary cholesterol, raises the
LDL cholesterol that increases your risk for CHD. Americans
consume on average 4 to 5 times as much saturated fat as
trans fat in their diets.

Although saturated fat is the main dietary culprit that raises LDL,
trans fat and dietary cholesterol also contribute significantly.
....'
http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/2003/503_fats.html

'January 27, 2005
Scientists discover molecular "switch" in liver that triggers
harmful effects of saturated and trans fats
......'
http://www.dfci.harvard.edu/abo/news...2005-01-27.asp

There are thousands of research studies on these facts, and they are
accepted by 99% of the doctors.


But not by you. lol.

H'mmmm maybe we need to eat nothing but meat, like the "old" Eskimo
diet, they sure didn't have the diet related medical problems people
have today


"Really now. Virtually every credible account you will ever read
that describes the Eskimo way of life will describe them eating
vegetable matter and great efforts they go to in collecting it
during the months when it is available.

(Plants) made up a *significant* portion of the diet in all Arctic
and sub-Arctic regions. Specifically they made up a significant
portion of Eskimo diets. There is one small area in central
Canada where that was less true than in all other areas, and the
main point to consider is that even in that area Eskimos did eat
vegetable matter on a regular basis.

You've never seen berries preserved in seal oil, or dried leaves
to make tea, or eaten soup made from a mouse nest, or picked
rose hips in the winter, or seen willows on the tundra, or eaten
salmon berries with Pilot Bread?"
- Written by Floyd L. Davidson, Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska).

Whale blubber, anyone ? :-)


That would certainly explain a lot.

'Pibloktoq (hysteria) and Inuit nutrition: possible implication
of hypervitaminosis A.
Landy D.
The hysterical reaction among Eskimo peoples known
as pibloktoq, one of a group of aberrant behaviors
occurring among Arctic and Circumarctic societies termed
'arctic hysterias', has been explained by a variety of theories:
ecological, nutritional, biological-physiological, psychological-
psychoanalytic, social structural and cultural. This study
hypothesizes the possible implication of vitamin intoxication,
namely, hypervitaminosis A, in the etiology of some cases of
pibloktoq. Its biocultural approach implicates elements of
several explanatory classes, which are not mutually exclusive.
Experimental and clinical studies of nonhumans and humans
reveal somatic and behavioral effects of hypervitaminosis A
which closely parallel many of the symptoms reported for
Western patients diagnosed as hysterical and Inuit sufferers
of pibloktoq. Eskimo nutrition provides abundant sources of
vitamin A and lays the probable basis in some individuals for
hypervitaminosis A through ingestion of livers, kidneys, and
fat of arctic fish and mammals, where the vitamin often is
stored in poisonous quantities. Possible connections between
pibloktoq and hypervitamonosis A are explored. A
multifactorial framework may yield a more compelling model
of some cases of pibloktoq than those that are mainly unicausal,
since, among other things, the disturbance has been reported
for males and females, adults and children, and dogs.

PMID: 4049004 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
http://tinyurl.com/5qw7


 




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