The Figure 8 Cast

Jonathan Cook wrote:
Larry L wrote:


The two I use most often are the Big Splat Cast and the Tangled Mess Cast


The real question is, are you skillful enough to combine them?

I'm so good I can make a wind knot without any wind...

The Big Splat Cast can be very effective with terrestrials. The Tangled
Mess Cast has no good use that occurs to me at the moment.

How often have I executed a Tangled Mess Cast and then spent minutes
trying to unsnarl the cluster ****, only to realize that it would have
more efficient to cut it apart and re-rig, and I don't know whether I'll
ever get it undone anyway, but I've invested so much time in it that I
can't quit?

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"rw" wrote




. The Tangled
Mess Cast has no good use that occurs to me at the moment.



It's a FAR better fish conservation technique than mere catch and release

"rw" wrote


The Big Splat Cast can be very effective with terrestrials.


Actually ...... driving the line into the water in a terrible, ugly,
megaSplat way ( not just splatting a hopper ) has one good real world use.
Imagine a very weedy spring creek with narrow ( often a foot or less ) slots
through the emergent weeds in which fish sit and sip. Your goal is to pile
LOTS of tippet slack in that slot but most 'pile cast' variations are hard
to do with any accuracy and accuracy is essential here.

Drive, and with force and gusto, all of the line and some of the leader (
will depend on leader construction ) into the weeds on your side of the slot
.... the rest of the leader will start out tagging along behind this
overpowered mess but then end up passing it slightly and piling up in the
slot as it falls to the water .... the splat from the line won't usually
scare the fish like it would elsewhere because the weedbed absorbs and hides
it from him

The first time I was told about this was by a teenage behind the counter kid
in a shop near Hot Creek ... I though I was being had and could nearly feel
my leg being stretched as it was pulled .... but, nest day after looking
around to be sure no body was there to start laughing at me, I tried it. ...
heah, it works, ...but it's REAL ugly ... I'm pretty sure they didn't use
this on in 'the movie" ( someday I gotta to see it, or read the book )

rw wrote:
The Tangled Mess Cast has no good use that occurs to me at the moment.

I find that as darkness settles in and I'm close to being a bit too far
from the jeep for a safe and reasonably speedy streamside bushwack
back, the Tangled Mess Cast is effective at saving my marriage.

"rw" wrote in message
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How often have I executed a Tangled Mess Cast and then spent minutes
trying to unsnarl the cluster ****, only to realize that it would have
more efficient to cut it apart and re-rig, and I don't know whether I'll
ever get it undone anyway, but I've invested so much time in it that I
can't quit?

Been their done that! In fact a couple weekends ago on the S.F of the Boise
while throwing a double nymph rig after the dry fly action stopped. As Tom
mentioned, noticing a tangle before casting it a couple times can be the
difference between cutting and un-tangling.

JT