Barak Hussein Obama? or Barak Hussein Osama?

"Cyli" wrote in message
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Wouldn't he have been a citizen even if Hawaii never changed from
territory (or protectorate or whatever) to state? I suspect that
anyone born in Puerto Rico is a U.S. citizen, for instance.
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r.bc: vixen

Can territorial citizens be President?

Op

"Opus" wrote in message
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"Cyli" wrote in message
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Wouldn't he have been a citizen even if Hawaii never changed from
territory (or protectorate or whatever) to state? I suspect that
anyone born in Puerto Rico is a U.S. citizen, for instance.
--

r.bc: vixen

Can territorial citizens be President?

Well, presidents have, for the most part, been territorial.

Wolfgang
who, although not certain of much, rests assured that this observation is at
least as valuable as most of the political pearls cast before this audience.

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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Well, presidents have, for the most part, been territorial.

Wolfgang
who, although not certain of much, rests assured that this observation is
at least as valuable as most of the political pearls cast before this
audience.

Okay, but could a Puerto Rican or Samoan citizen become POTUS?

Op

"Opus" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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Well, presidents have, for the most part, been territorial.

Wolfgang
who, although not certain of much, rests assured that this observation is
at least as valuable as most of the political pearls cast before this
audience.

Okay, but could a Puerto Rican or Samoan citizen become POTUS?

According to the information presented he

http://topuertorico.org/government.shtml

Puerto Ricans can't vote for president. I'd be careful about drawing hard
and fast conclusions, but it seems to me that if you can't vote for it is
unlikely that you can be.

Samoans, on the other hand (or, at least the ones I've seen) tend to be
large and rather fierce looking. I'm not going to tell them what they may
or may not do or be.

Wolfgang

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"Opus" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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Well, presidents have, for the most part, been territorial.

Wolfgang
who, although not certain of much, rests assured that this observation
is
at least as valuable as most of the political pearls cast before this
audience.

Okay, but could a Puerto Rican or Samoan citizen become POTUS?

According to the information presented he

http://topuertorico.org/government.shtml

Puerto Ricans can't vote for president. I'd be careful about drawing hard
and fast conclusions, but it seems to me that if you can't vote for it is
unlikely that you can be.

I found that same info, basically, when I searched. I too thought that if
Puerto Ricans were unable to vote for POTUS that they might be denied the
right to become POTUS, if it is in fact a right, that is?

I've not been able to find any thing definitive on the subject. the U.S.
Constitution just says:

Clause 5:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States,
at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the
Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who
shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen
Years a Resident within the United States.
http://www.law.emory.edu/cms/site/in...p?id=3085#7662

There is this also:

Persons born in Puerto Rico acquire U.S. citizenship under 8 U.S.C. 1402,
which is part of the U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act. This is statutory
citizenship rather than citizenship arising from birth or naturalization in
a state of the union under the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
http://www.puertorico-herald.org/iss...nship-en.shtml

XIV Amendment
Section 1


The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other
election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice
President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied
or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay
any poll tax or other tax.
http://www.law.emory.edu/cms/site/in...p?id=3085#7662


Samoans, on the other hand (or, at least the ones I've seen) tend to be
large and rather fierce looking. I'm not going to tell them what they may
or may not do or be.


I'm with ya on this one!

Op --just curious about this, more than anything.--



Wolfgang

Opus wrote:

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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Well, presidents have, for the most part, been territorial.

Wolfgang
who, although not certain of much, rests assured that this observation is
at least as valuable as most of the political pearls cast before this
audience.


Okay, but could a Puerto Rican or Samoan citizen become POTUS?

Op

Why not? As long as they're a natural born U.S. citizen.

"xorbit" wrote in message
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Opus wrote:

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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Well, presidents have, for the most part, been territorial.

Wolfgang
who, although not certain of much, rests assured that this observation is
at least as valuable as most of the political pearls cast before this
audience.


Okay, but could a Puerto Rican or Samoan citizen become POTUS?

Op

Why not? As long as they're a natural born U.S. citizen.

"Persons born in Puerto Rico acquire U.S. citizenship under 8 U.S.C. 1402,
which is part of the U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act. This is statutory
citizenship rather than citizenship arising from birth or naturalization in
a state of the union under the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution."

This would seem to exclude Puerto Ricans from the status of "natural born
U.S. citizen." Unless, of course, you mean to suggest that "natural born"
only excludes those delivered by caesarian section.

Wolfgang
who makes no claim to specialized knowledge of obstetrical practices in
samoa.

"xorbit" wrote in message
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Opus wrote:

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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Well, presidents have, for the most part, been territorial.

Wolfgang
who, although not certain of much, rests assured that this observation is
at least as valuable as most of the political pearls cast before this
audience.


Okay, but could a Puerto Rican or Samoan citizen become POTUS?

Op

Why not? As long as they're a natural born U.S. citizen.

But are they?

Persons born in Puerto Rico acquire U.S. citizenship under 8 U.S.C. 1402,
which is part of the U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act. ***This is
statutory citizenship rather than citizenship arising from birth or
naturalization in a state of the union under the 14th Amendment of the U.S.
Constitution.
http://www.puertorico-herald.org/iss...nship-en.shtml

Op