Barak Hussein Obama? or Barak Hussein Osama?

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:29:13 -0600, Conan The Librarian
wrote:

Cyli wrote:

I do hope that Hillary will never run for president, nor even vice.
First, I don't think a woman can be elected president any time in the
next decade or two. Second, Hillary has so much baggage that it'd bog
her right down.

Not that I disagree with you, but evidently at least one big name on
the right has a different take.

"Big name on the right?" Please. DeLay is a crooked little turd who
got a well-deserved flush down the drain.

It appears DeLay thinks Hillary will be elected in 2008 and will tab
Obama as her veep:
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=28995

Golly! Whoda thunk DeLay could imagine something so original?

Of course he goes on to blame it on the media working in concert
with a "liberal coalition" run by Carville, Blumenthal, Begala and Ickes.

He also says Obama has the record of a "leftist-Marxist".

Well, to give credit where it's due, he's right about that - Obama's
record as an elected US legislator is very similar to that of Karl
Marx...or Henry VIII...

Chuck Vance (of course this could all just be scare tactics on
his part)

Yeah, he's scared his silly-assed little blog managed to con the only
100 suckers out of 52 bucks it'll ever be able to con...

R

He also says Obama has the record of a "leftist-Marxist".

Well this alone assures him of my vote!

I am not sure that a socialist in the Whitehouse, be it Hillary or
Obama, would be beneficial to this nation. The expansion of the failure
of Great Society, and allowing every group to claim civil rights
recognition, can only polarize this nation to a new higher level.

As for Obama being a moderate (the often claim of the major media),
consider the following:

http://www.adaction.org/
The ADA Today

Barack Obama (Illinois) Liberal Quotent (LQ) Rating: 100 (out of 100)
The rating of 100 is considered [perfect].

From the ADA newsletter:

" Liberal Quotient (LQ) is the rating of a Member of Congress
determined by the percentage of votes cast in support of
liberal policies, measured against the number of votes
counted. The votes selected cover the full spectrum of
domestic, foreign, economic, military, environmental and
social issues. We often chose procedural votes,
amendments, motions to table, or votes on rules for
debate. These votes can reveal true attitudes obscured
in final votes. "

And from the opposite side of the political spectrum:

http://www.conservative.org/archive2/2008potus.asp

The American Conservative Union gave Obama a score of 8 (also out of
100). Even Hillary managed a 12 from this organization.

wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Don't worry about Barack Obama's fighting ability. He's won,
and lost, elections for the Illinois legislature and Illinois
politics is anything but genteel.

Er, yeah...he's the regular Fightin' Illini of politics...and in his
last "game," the opposition sent the cheerleaders, but forgot to bring
the actual team to the stadium...

The general election of the 2004 Senate race wasn't the "game", it
was a foregone conclusion, the knock down drag out happened in the
Democratic primary as anyone who had even a cursory understanding
of Illinois politics would well know.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On 13 Dec 2006 15:58:21 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

"Opus" wrote in :


"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4...

He's just spreading rumors to secretly promote anyone who he thinks
will be
strong on prison reform.

--
Scott

I sure hope he gets the chance to find out about prison culture!

Op




You and me both, Op. Even better if they can get him in a TX state
facility.

Thus demonstrating your and Op's political acumen. If an
equally-crooked nest-feathering partisan ****ass tries to put the little
turd in a Texas prison (esp. on trumped-up charges of which he's likely
not guilty), it makes a martyr out of him (and one with a legit outcry).
Let him run around with his cakehole open, and he marginalizes himself
even further than he already is. There's no worse punishment for a
creature like DeLay. In the event any real evidence of his actual
crimes surface, let a USA (as non-partisan as possible) get him.

R

wrote in message
...

Or his Bears' pregame "announcement"...

Not familiar with political humor, heh?

If he joins up with McCain, they could both ignore whoever the opponents
wind up being.

If he goes with McCain, all this talk about his intellect will have been for
naught.

If it does wind up being he and Hillary in a contest for
Dem nominee,

Well which will be Pres and which will be VP?

he won't need to "go negative" - the GOP and everyone else
to the right of, oh, say, Michael Moore will do it for him.

Well that is to be expected, I mean we are talking Dems. and Repubs., right?

And
speaking of idiots,

This is not about you Rah.

Hillary and the Clintonistas seem to be right on
schedule to **** up Hillary's chances by continuing to do what they do -
attempting to rat**** _anyone_, including the voters, that they see as
"in the way."

You reckon they shoot anyone in the face?

If he's the Dem nominee, his objective negatives (no real experience, no
real record at any level - no "yardstick"),

Pretty much like the last two Ps'OTUS, right. I mean former governors
aren't really qualified to hold the highest office in the land, right. But
of course, politics ain't about qualifications.

combined with subjective
negatives (he's a Dem, he's too black, he's not black enough, he's not
"liberal"/"conservative" enough, he's too "liberal"/ "conservative,"
he's too young, etc.), will likely combine to get him defeated THIS TIME
if the GOP puts up anyone short of maybe Pat Robertson.

Maybe he could get Colin Powell to run with him, he's got it all ya know.

Of course the Republicans are likely to run someone just to the right of
Satan, so they will have the best shot at getting their base vote anyway.

If it's McCain,
Obama's done. They are both, as pols go, good men, but McCain has the
name and the record, and if he goes (really) negative on McCain, he's
_really_ done. IMO, though, if they are steering their own ships,
neither would go unduly (and subjectively) negative on the other.

Yeah, wouldn't want to Swiftboat McCain the way Bush did. And of course
McCains age certainly won't figure in. Remeber, he no Ronny Reagan.

If he's smart, whether he joins McCain or not, he will take a page from
his playbook: don't go (subjectively) negative _against anyone_ and be
thought of as one of the "good guys" by the entire center.

That a great and positive Republican strategy, right.

And anyone wanna bet that Hillary (or her campaign) will bring up his
skin color at least once?

No, because neither will run this time out. Wanna bet on that?

Op

R

wrote in message
...
...Let him run around with his cakehole open, and he marginalizes himself
even further than he already is. There's no worse punishment for a
creature like [dicklet]....

O, irony, thy name is......well, you know.

Wolfgang
absinthe emeril latifah oprah oprah absinthe emril absinthe

"Traveler" wrote in message
oups.com...
He also says Obama has the record of a "leftist-Marxist".

Well this alone assures him of my vote!

I am not sure that a socialist in the Whitehouse, be it Hillary or
Obama, would be beneficial to this nation. The expansion of the failure
of Great Society, and allowing every group to claim civil rights
recognition, can only polarize this nation to a new higher level.

As for Obama being a moderate (the often claim of the major media),
consider the following:

http://www.adaction.org/
The ADA Today

Barack Obama (Illinois) Liberal Quotent (LQ) Rating: 100 (out of 100)
The rating of 100 is considered [perfect].

From the ADA newsletter:

" Liberal Quotient (LQ) is the rating of a Member of Congress
determined by the percentage of votes cast in support of
liberal policies, measured against the number of votes
counted. The votes selected cover the full spectrum of
domestic, foreign, economic, military, environmental and
social issues. We often chose procedural votes,
amendments, motions to table, or votes on rules for
debate. These votes can reveal true attitudes obscured
in final votes. "

And from the opposite side of the political spectrum:

http://www.conservative.org/archive2/2008potus.asp

The American Conservative Union gave Obama a score of 8 (also out of
100). Even Hillary managed a 12 from this organization.

Ah, yet another centrist political genius heard from!

Wolfgang
who would have thought that kennies and dicklets were incapable of
parthenogenesis.

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:49:54 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Don't worry about Barack Obama's fighting ability. He's won,
and lost, elections for the Illinois legislature and Illinois
politics is anything but genteel.

Er, yeah...he's the regular Fightin' Illini of politics...and in his
last "game," the opposition sent the cheerleaders, but forgot to bring
the actual team to the stadium...

The general election of the 2004 Senate race wasn't the "game", it
was a foregone conclusion, the knock down drag out happened in the
Democratic primary

"Knock down drag out," huh? Yeah, it was a real down-to-the-wire
nail-biter...what, 182% of the registered Dems voted for him, compared
to the next-place guy, a Chicago legacycrook, who only got, what,
101%...

as anyone who had even a cursory understanding
of Illinois politics would well know.

IOW, you don't have the slightest idea...and if you think winning some
Chicago ballot-box-stuffing contest is any real prep for a US-wide
Presidential race, you really are, um, way out there in left field...

HTH,
R

"Traveler" wrote in message
oups.com...
He also says Obama has the record of a "leftist-Marxist".

Well this alone assures him of my vote!

I am not sure that a socialist in the Whitehouse, be it Hillary or
Obama, would be beneficial to this nation. The expansion of the failure
of Great Society, and allowing every group to claim civil rights
recognition, can only polarize this nation to a new higher level.

Well, as my previous comment was tongue and cheek, I must say that I would
much prefer extreme liberal, as we know it, to the totalitarian regime that
we presently have in office.

Besides, I would vote for a child molester or Satan before I'd vote for a
Dem. or Repub.!

Op

Opus wrote:
Besides, I would vote for a child molester or Satan before I'd vote for a
Dem. or Repub.!

Lest it need be said, those are not mutually exclusive. :-)

Joe F.