knotted leaders

I think you'd be surprised at how efficient one can become at it.

"Opus" wrote in message
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"G. J. Z." wrote in message
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I would tie them but I don't have the time,

I like the way maxima knotted leaders turn over especially with big wet
flies I like to fish, I like a stiffer material for that type of fishing,
this guy ties them and sells them on ebay I use them I think it's a good
product.





http://stores.ebay.com/Fave-Fly-Fish...Q3amesstQQtZkm


Hard to believe that he can sell them for just $1.99 each?

I'd think that the time alone would be $20 or $30!

Op

"G. J. Z." wrote in message
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I think you'd be surprised at how efficient one can become at it.

I guess, but I tie all of my leader segments with blood knots and between
length measurement and tyin' I can't imagine tyin' one in less that 4 or 5
minutes each.

Op

thats fast
"Opus" wrote in message
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"G. J. Z." wrote in message
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I think you'd be surprised at how efficient one can become at it.

I guess, but I tie all of my leader segments with blood knots and between
length measurement and tyin' I can't imagine tyin' one in less that 4 or 5
minutes each.

Op

"G. J. Z." wrote in message
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thats fast

Yes, I'd say so. Unrealistically fast, IMO. I can tie-up a leader in about
10 or so minutes, I guess. I've never actually timed myself. I measure and
cut a number of tippet lengths that I figure on tyin', and then tie. I
don't doubt a person can tie them up faster than myself. I feel that the
blood knot is the strongest and straightest tie for leaders. I don't know
this to be a fact, it's just my opinion. So, I tie each of my segment
together with a blood-knot, and he apparently ties his leaders using
blood-knots as well.

I like that a blood-knot because it keeps the segments straight, the length
of the entire leader. On the stream, I have been known to tie on another
tippet using a double-surgeons knot, but that generally because I am tyin'
to a 5X a 6X tippet and it's just expedient to do so.

I've no call to question the man's business. If he can sell his leaders for
$2.00 a piece, then I consider the buyer to be gettin' a bargain, as most
manufactured leaders sell for a dollar to two dollars more than that.

Hell, if he tied 12 foot leaders, I might be convinced to buy some myself.

Op

Opus wrote:

Yes, I'd say so. Unrealistically fast, IMO. I can tie-up a leader in about
10 or so minutes, I guess. I've never actually timed myself. I measure and
cut a number of tippet lengths that I figure on tyin', and then tie. I
don't doubt a person can tie them up faster than myself. I feel that the
blood knot is the strongest and straightest tie for leaders. I don't know
this to be a fact, it's just my opinion.

FYI, the surgeon's knot tests stronger than the blood knot.

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"rw" wrote in message news
FYI, the surgeon's knot tests stronger than the blood knot.

Is there a significant difference between the two in stiffness in terms of
turning over the leader?

Joe F.

rb608 wrote:
"rw" wrote in message news

FYI, the surgeon's knot tests stronger than the blood knot.


Is there a significant difference between the two in stiffness in terms of
turning over the leader?

I don't know, but I doubt it.

Blood knots are fine for the heavier parts of the leader, and even
superior if only because they're smoother and straighter. You aren't
going to break those knots unless you tie an incredibly bad one.

The surgeon's knot is the clear choice for the leader/tippet connection,
IMO. It's stronger and easier to tie.

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"rw" wrote in message
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Opus wrote:

Yes, I'd say so. Unrealistically fast, IMO. I can tie-up a leader in
about 10 or so minutes, I guess. I've never actually timed myself. I
measure and cut a number of tippet lengths that I figure on tyin', and
then tie. I don't doubt a person can tie them up faster than myself. I
feel that the blood knot is the strongest and straightest tie for
leaders. I don't know this to be a fact, it's just my opinion.

FYI, the surgeon's knot tests stronger than the blood knot.

You may be correct in your assessment of the surgeon's knot, and I should
have qualified my statement to read, "I feel that the blood knot is the
strongest and straightest tie for leaders, *and my particular fishing.*"

So, for my purposes the blood-knot is a straighter knot and the strength is
sufficient to catch the itty-bitty trout I fish for. I've seen the fish you
catch out West, and they are considerably larger than the trout I catch, so
strength isn't the significant characteristic I look for when stalkin' the
trout in NC mountain streams.

I have no doubt that you and the surgeon's knot will live happily ever after
together and I and my blood-knot will do likewise.

Op

"Opus" wrote in
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So, for my purposes the blood-knot is a straighter knot and the
strength is sufficient to catch the itty-bitty trout I fish for.

I'll second you on this. The surgeon's knot is an OK tippet to leader
connection, but if you use it to tie a knotted leader it lacks appeal for
me because of it's crookedness.


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Hell, if he tied 12 foot leaders, I might be convinced to buy some myself.



He has had them I've gotten them from him,

I was also considering asking him if he would make some custom formulas from
Trout by Ernie Schwiebert. Some awesome stuff.







http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7lofi/flytyer/

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"G. J. Z." wrote in message
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thats fast

Yes, I'd say so. Unrealistically fast, IMO. I can tie-up a leader in
about 10 or so minutes, I guess. I've never actually timed myself. I
measure and cut a number of tippet lengths that I figure on tyin', and
then tie. I don't doubt a person can tie them up faster than myself. I
feel that the blood knot is the strongest and straightest tie for leaders.
I don't know this to be a fact, it's just my opinion. So, I tie each of
my segment together with a blood-knot, and he apparently ties his leaders
using blood-knots as well.

I like that a blood-knot because it keeps the segments straight, the
length of the entire leader. On the stream, I have been known to tie on
another tippet using a double-surgeons knot, but that generally because I
am tyin' to a 5X a 6X tippet and it's just expedient to do so.

I've no call to question the man's business. If he can sell his leaders
for $2.00 a piece, then I consider the buyer to be gettin' a bargain, as
most manufactured leaders sell for a dollar to two dollars more than that.

Hell, if he tied 12 foot leaders, I might be convinced to buy some myself.

Op