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On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 08:35:23 +0000, Geoff wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:03:20 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote: "Burkie" wrote in message roups.com... Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie" is yours, not mine. pete is the one who told us to buy tesco salmon so he isn't that much of a veggie Go veggie. · Vegans contribute to the deaths of animals by their use of wood and paper products, electricity, roads and all types of buildings, their own diet, etc... just as everyone else does. What they try to avoid are products which provide life (and death) for farm animals, but even then they would have to avoid the following items containing animal by-products in order to be successful: Tires, Paper, Upholstery, Floor waxes, Glass, Water Filters, Rubber, Fertilizer, Antifreeze, Ceramics, Insecticides, Insulation, Linoleum, Plastic, Textiles, Blood factors, Collagen, Heparin, Insulin, Solvents, Biodegradable Detergents, Herbicides, Gelatin Capsules, Adhesive Tape, Laminated Wood Products, Plywood, Paneling, Wallpaper and Wallpaper Paste, Cellophane Wrap and Tape, Abrasives, Steel Ball Bearings The meat industry provides life for the animals that it slaughters, and the animals live and die as a result of it as animals do in other habitats. They also depend on it for their lives as animals do in other habitats. If people consume animal products from animals they think are raised in decent ways, they will be promoting life for more such animals in the future. People who want to contribute to decent lives for livestock with their lifestyle must do it by being conscientious consumers of animal products, because they can not do it by being vegan. From the life and death of a thousand pound grass raised steer and whatever he happens to kill during his life, people get over 500 pounds of human consumable meat...that's well over 500 servings of meat. From a grass raised dairy cow people get thousands of dairy servings. Due to the influence of farm machinery, and *icides, and in the case of rice the flooding and draining of fields, one serving of soy or rice based product is likely to involve more animal deaths than hundreds of servings derived from grass raised animals. Grass raised animal products contribute to fewer wildlife deaths, better wildlife habitat, and better lives for livestock than soy or rice products. · |
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:03:20 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote:
"Burkie" wrote in message oups.com... Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie" is yours, not mine. pete is the one who told us to buy tesco salmon Why? so he isn't that much of a veggie Jim Webster |
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![]() dh@. wrote in message ... On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:03:20 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote: "Burkie" wrote in message roups.com... Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie" is yours, not mine. pete is the one who told us to buy tesco salmon Why? because he is a troll? Jim Webster |
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On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 21:16:25 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote:
dh@. wrote in message ... On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:03:20 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote: "Burkie" wrote in message groups.com... Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie" is yours, not mine. pete is the one who told us to buy tesco salmon Why? because he is a troll? Jim Webster Well in a way we all are, but why would someone who wants to be thought of as promoting veg*nism suggest that anyone should buy salmon? And from a particular company? |
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On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 15:16:18 -0500, dh@. wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 21:16:25 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote: dh@. wrote in message ... On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:03:20 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote: "Burkie" wrote in message egroups.com... Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie" is yours, not mine. pete is the one who told us to buy tesco salmon Why? because he is a troll? Jim Webster Well in a way we all are, but why would someone who wants to be thought of as promoting veg*nism suggest that anyone should buy salmon? And from a particular company? Webster an idiot, bully, child porn hoarder, and convicted pro hunt loon. Take what he says with a large pinch of salt! spit. -- *************************** "Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." - Albert Schweitzer Check out Animal Aid’s brand new one-minute video. This powerful film, containing shocking images, just begs to be seen by as many people as possible. Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2 The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing 1.I was forced to as a child. 2.People who make soap are only after your money. 3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter. 4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else. 5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best. 6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped. 7.None of my friends wash. 8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer. 9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier. 10.I can't spare the time . |
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![]() dh@. wrote in message ... On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 21:16:25 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote: dh@. wrote in message ... On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:03:20 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote: "Burkie" wrote in message egroups.com... Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie" is yours, not mine. pete is the one who told us to buy tesco salmon Why? because he is a troll? Jim Webster Well in a way we all are, but why would someone who wants to be thought of as promoting veg*nism suggest that anyone should buy salmon? And from a particular company? such is life, don't expect pete to be consistant or even to actually believe in what he writes if he things it might wind people up Jim Webster |
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![]() Burkie wrote: Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie" is yours, not mine. I'll die and go to heaven having whatever meat I want to eat. That's not to say, I don't disagree with your position of choice....it's your choice. So don't make me feel threatened by your comments, because I am not. Granted, you have your choice, I have mine, but you try to thrust your opinions and comments on a group of people , here, that are trying to make a living producing food for the Public. Companies like Perdigao, Sadia, Smithfield and your retailers must think good of you, because your insistence upon a veg diet still requires you to patronize some of them as your source. Why attempt to discredit honest, hard-working livestock producers? Or is that your fetal attempt to do so? Must make you feel good. Must make veggie's taste better to you, knowing you are trying to destroy other people's livings. But that's easy for you to come off on those that have made significant investments in facilities and equipment, who try to comply with the non-sensical EU rules in your country, then buy produce imported from who-knows-where. I have an attitude, but it doesn't agree with yours. Burkie Burkie is going to neither hevean nor hell; he is lucky the latter does not exist. |
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"Ronald 'More-More' Moshki" wrote in message
ps.com... Burkie wrote: Burkie is going to neither hevean nor hell; he is lucky the latter does not exist. Can you please give proof that the former does exist please? Mike -- .................................................. ......... Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rnshipmates.co.uk www.nsrafa.com |
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Why attempt to discredit honest, hard-working livestock producers? Or
is that your fetal attempt to do so? There is nothing honest about the meat industry trying to keep from the public the cruel conditions of factory farming and rendering of animals that suffer greatly because of desire to make more profit while denying helpless animals their God given right to natural life. They are also poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to factory farming. |
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ups.com... .. They are also poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to factory farming. ??????????????????? Considering that there are more meat eaters in this country that veggies, can you please explain to me, why, if the meat industry is 'poisoning the public', the public in general are living a lot longer and as proof, the pensionable age is to be raised because of the shortfall in pension funds? Thank you Mike 70 and going strong :-)) -- .................................................. ......... Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rnshipmates.co.uk www.nsrafa.com |
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