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Old January 7th, 2007, 06:50 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,uk.rec.gardening,uk.business.agriculture,uk.rec.fishing.coarse
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On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 08:35:23 +0000, Geoff wrote:

On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:03:20 -0000, "Jim Webster"
wrote:


"Burkie" wrote in message
roups.com...
Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie"
is yours, not mine.



pete is the one who told us to buy tesco salmon so he isn't that much of a
veggie


Go veggie.


· Vegans contribute to the deaths of animals by their use of
wood and paper products, electricity, roads and all types of
buildings, their own diet, etc... just as everyone else does.
What they try to avoid are products which provide life
(and death) for farm animals, but even then they would have
to avoid the following items containing animal by-products
in order to be successful:

Tires, Paper, Upholstery, Floor waxes, Glass, Water
Filters, Rubber, Fertilizer, Antifreeze, Ceramics, Insecticides,
Insulation, Linoleum, Plastic, Textiles, Blood factors, Collagen,
Heparin, Insulin, Solvents, Biodegradable Detergents, Herbicides,
Gelatin Capsules, Adhesive Tape, Laminated Wood Products,
Plywood, Paneling, Wallpaper and Wallpaper Paste, Cellophane
Wrap and Tape, Abrasives, Steel Ball Bearings

The meat industry provides life for the animals that it
slaughters, and the animals live and die as a result of it
as animals do in other habitats. They also depend on it for
their lives as animals do in other habitats. If people consume
animal products from animals they think are raised in decent
ways, they will be promoting life for more such animals in the
future. People who want to contribute to decent lives for
livestock with their lifestyle must do it by being conscientious
consumers of animal products, because they can not do it by
being vegan.
From the life and death of a thousand pound grass raised
steer and whatever he happens to kill during his life, people
get over 500 pounds of human consumable meat...that's well
over 500 servings of meat. From a grass raised dairy cow people
get thousands of dairy servings. Due to the influence of farm
machinery, and *icides, and in the case of rice the flooding and
draining of fields, one serving of soy or rice based product is
likely to involve more animal deaths than hundreds of servings
derived from grass raised animals. Grass raised animal products
contribute to fewer wildlife deaths, better wildlife habitat, and
better lives for livestock than soy or rice products. ·
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Old January 7th, 2007, 06:50 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,uk.rec.gardening,uk.business.agriculture,uk.rec.fishing.coarse
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Default PMWS pork entering food chain

On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:03:20 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote:


"Burkie" wrote in message
oups.com...
Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie"
is yours, not mine.



pete is the one who told us to buy tesco salmon


Why?

so he isn't that much of a
veggie

Jim Webster

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Old January 7th, 2007, 09:16 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,uk.rec.gardening,uk.business.agriculture,uk.rec.fishing.coarse
Jim Webster
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dh@. wrote in message ...
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:03:20 -0000, "Jim Webster"
wrote:


"Burkie" wrote in message
roups.com...
Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie"
is yours, not mine.



pete is the one who told us to buy tesco salmon


Why?


because he is a troll?

Jim Webster


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Old January 8th, 2007, 08:16 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,uk.rec.gardening,uk.business.agriculture,uk.rec.fishing.coarse
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On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 21:16:25 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote:


dh@. wrote in message ...
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:03:20 -0000, "Jim Webster"
wrote:


"Burkie" wrote in message
groups.com...
Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie"
is yours, not mine.


pete is the one who told us to buy tesco salmon


Why?


because he is a troll?

Jim Webster


Well in a way we all are, but why would someone who wants to be
thought of as promoting veg*nism suggest that anyone should buy
salmon? And from a particular company?
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Old January 8th, 2007, 08:54 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,uk.rec.gardening,uk.business.agriculture,uk.rec.fishing.coarse
Geoff
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On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 15:16:18 -0500, dh@. wrote:

On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 21:16:25 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote:


dh@. wrote in message ...
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:03:20 -0000, "Jim Webster"
wrote:


"Burkie" wrote in message
egroups.com...
Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie"
is yours, not mine.


pete is the one who told us to buy tesco salmon

Why?


because he is a troll?

Jim Webster


Well in a way we all are, but why would someone who wants to be
thought of as promoting veg*nism suggest that anyone should buy
salmon? And from a particular company?


Webster an idiot, bully, child porn hoarder, and convicted pro hunt
loon. Take what he says with a large pinch of salt!

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The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing

1.I was forced to as a child.
2.People who make soap are only after your money.
3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter.
4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else.
5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best.
6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped.
7.None of my friends wash.
8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer.
9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier.
10.I can't spare the time .
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Old January 9th, 2007, 11:31 AM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,uk.rec.gardening,uk.business.agriculture,uk.rec.fishing.coarse
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dh@. wrote in message ...
On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 21:16:25 -0000, "Jim Webster"
wrote:


dh@. wrote in message ...
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:03:20 -0000, "Jim Webster"
wrote:


"Burkie" wrote in message
egroups.com...
Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go
veggie"
is yours, not mine.


pete is the one who told us to buy tesco salmon

Why?


because he is a troll?

Jim Webster


Well in a way we all are, but why would someone who wants to be
thought of as promoting veg*nism suggest that anyone should buy
salmon? And from a particular company?


such is life, don't expect pete to be consistant or even to actually believe
in what he writes if he things it might wind people up

Jim Webster


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Old January 7th, 2007, 03:55 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,uk.rec.gardening,uk.business.agriculture,uk.rec.fishing.coarse
Ronald 'More-More' Moshki
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Burkie wrote:
Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie"
is yours, not mine. I'll die and go to heaven having whatever meat I
want to eat. That's not to say, I don't disagree with your position
of choice....it's your choice. So don't make me feel threatened by
your comments, because I am not. Granted, you have your choice, I have
mine, but you try to thrust your opinions and comments on a group of
people , here, that are trying to make a living producing food for the
Public. Companies like Perdigao, Sadia, Smithfield and your retailers
must think good of you, because your insistence upon a veg diet still
requires you to patronize some of them as your source.

Why attempt to discredit honest, hard-working livestock producers? Or
is that your fetal attempt to do so?

Must make you feel good.

Must make veggie's taste better to you, knowing you are trying to
destroy other people's livings.

But that's easy for you to come off on those that have made significant
investments in facilities and equipment, who try to comply with the
non-sensical EU rules in your country, then buy produce imported from
who-knows-where.

I have an attitude, but it doesn't agree with yours.


Burkie


Burkie is going to neither hevean nor hell; he is
lucky the latter does not exist.


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Old January 7th, 2007, 04:14 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,uk.rec.gardening,uk.business.agriculture,uk.rec.fishing.coarse
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"Ronald 'More-More' Moshki" wrote in message
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Burkie wrote:

Burkie is going to neither hevean nor hell; he is
lucky the latter does not exist.



Can you please give proof that the former does exist please?

Mike


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Old January 7th, 2007, 04:04 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,uk.rec.gardening,uk.business.agriculture,uk.rec.fishing.coarse
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Why attempt to discredit honest, hard-working livestock producers? Or
is that your fetal attempt to do so?


There is nothing honest about the meat industry trying to keep from the
public the cruel conditions of factory farming and rendering of animals
that suffer greatly because of desire to make more profit while denying
helpless animals their God given right to natural life. They are also
poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to
factory farming.

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Old January 7th, 2007, 04:18 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,uk.rec.gardening,uk.business.agriculture,uk.rec.fishing.coarse
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wrote in message
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.. They are also
poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to
factory farming.


???????????????????

Considering that there are more meat eaters in this country that veggies,
can you please explain to me, why, if the meat industry is 'poisoning the
public', the public in general are living a lot longer and as proof, the
pensionable age is to be raised because of the shortfall in pension funds?

Thank you

Mike
70 and going strong :-))


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