Fishing is Cold-Hearted!

Musashi wrote:
I hope you are reborn as a vegetable.
I will savor your flavor, but not your screaming in agony, while chewing you
raw and alive.
http://www.gardenseeker.com/do_plant..._feelings_.htm

Kids who hate brocolli should show this to their parents.

JT wrote:
And you a filthy crack whore, who is screwed in the ass for all eternity!

Oh no! I can't handle that fate! Lord please help me!

barfing in fear

"Radium" wrote in message
ps.com...
JT wrote:
And you a filthy crack whore, who is screwed in the ass for all eternity!

Oh no! I can't handle that fate! Lord please help me!

barfing in fear


Tell that to cone snails that harpoon their victims with poison harpoons.

On 10 Jan 2007 23:20:03 -0800, "Radium" wrote:

Fishing is a very cruel sport that slowly and painfully kills the fish.
The fish dies in the water before it is brought out to air. Thats
right, it is not an easy bloodless death by suffocation, but rather a
brutal, blood-spurting death caused by shock, profuse bleeding, and
excruciating pain. The sharp objects on the fish-hook kill the fish by
causing severe pain, hemmorhaging, and shock. This is very cruel and
sadistic.

That's actually completely incorrect. Fish have totally different kind
of skin to humans and it is very tough especially around the mouth.
Hooks do not cause fish a lot of pain and rarely cause bleeding. They
certainly don't kill them.

Suffocation is not what kills the fish. Its the sharp stuff on the hook
that slowly, painfully, yet surely kills the poor fish

You are completely deluded and quite obviously know nothing about fish
or fishing.

When I have been fishing in the past it is the striking of the fish on
the head which kills it instantly without any suffering. That's for
the small number of fish I keep to eat. The majority of fish that I
release back seem pretty fine and healthy to me and swim away none the
worse for wear. If hooks were really as deadly as you think then the
fish we release back to the water afterwards would not swim away as
right as rain.

Stop fishing!!!!

No. You stop whinging.

Shooting a deer is not nearly as sadistic as fishing.

I was beginning to think you were a bleeding heart liberal. Now I
think you're just a whinging hypocritical troll.

Shooting a Deer especially if you are quite a distance from it, could
result in you not hitting the dear in the correct place to kill it
instantaneously. It could suddenly move before you pull the trigger or
you may move slightly and miss hitting it elsewhere. Then you have a
situation where you will have a Deer with a bullet in it some place
that might manage to leave the scene to somewhere further away were it
is going to bleed for quite a while before it dies or before anyone
can get there to finish it off. So I would argue that if anything the
Deer hunting is more likely to result in a Deer that suffers before it
dies.

Not that either of these sports are sadistic and in the case of
fishing, not all fishermen keep what they catch, a lot of it
especially in course and game fishing is thrown back.

Before the ban on Fox Hunting here in the UK, what you usually had was
the dogs would catch the weakest, disease ridden or oldest foxes, or
the ones that were problems, and the huntsmen would be right behind
and be able to take care of the fox pretty much straight away.

Since the ban on hunting with Dogs what you now have is a situation
where you have marksmen shooting them from greater distances, and
quite often missing which now results in Foxes that have been shot and
injured that suffer for a long time before they die. And these foxes
shot by marksmen from longer distances are not necessarily the weakest
foxes, old foxes, problem foxes or diseased ones. It is often healthy
ones too.

So now the ban on hunting with dogs has just exacerbated and made
worse a problem that you never had previously. The weekend after the
ban on hunting with dogs came into effect, 10 times as many foxes were
killed that weekend by marksmen. I believe it was something like 130
foxes that were shot the weekend after the ban when ordinarily the
hunts going on around the country would have only culled a seventh or
sixth of that number at best.

Due to the animal rights brigade who know nothing about conservation,
animals or the countryside, you now have a situation were animals are
worse off, and instead of problem disease ridden foxes being culled
you also have healthy ones being killed as well. At least with hunting
with dogs the fox had a sporting chance of getting away, and quite
often the fittest and healthiest foxes would get away, usually only
the diseased ones and problem ones would be caught and killed, and
this served a very useful purpose.

Now you don't have this situation any more because of spiteful class
warfare instigated by left wing scruffy hippy types who know nothing
about the welfare of animals especially from the looks of the way they
keep themselves and their own animals.

The sad thing is that a lot of people in this country as well as
political parties have been suckered in to believing that things like
fox hunting is cruel without ever actually going on a hunt and finding
out for themselves whether it is or not. It is just another law that
has been passed based on public emotion instead of hard facts.

Those who fish are commiting a grave sin and will burn in hell after
their deaths. Karma is a bitch!

Jesus is doing just fine as well as all his disciples and they caught
and ate plenty of fish.

John

Radium wrote:
Fishing is a very cruel sport that slowly and painfully kills the fish.
The fish dies in the water before it is brought out to air. Thats
right, it is not an easy bloodless death by suffocation, but rather a
brutal, blood-spurting death caused by shock, profuse bleeding, and
excruciating pain. The sharp objects on the fish-hook kill the fish by
causing severe pain, hemmorhaging, and shock. This is very cruel and
sadistic.

Suffocation is not what kills the fish. Its the sharp stuff on the hook
that slowly, painfully, yet surely kills the poor fish

Stop fishing!!!!

Shooting a deer is not nearly as sadistic as fishing.

Those who fish are commiting a grave sin and will burn in hell after
their deaths. Karma is a bitch!

I'd suggest you set an example for all of us, by no longer eating fish.
You should also avoid eating animals, for the same reasons. You should
also avoid all kinds of plant life, because, their living things as
well.

Get back to us in a few months, and let us all know how your doing.

John

There is an easy test - just stick one of the hooks you use through your
upper lip and give it a good strong pull - if it hurts you it hurts the
fish

David - who has no probs about fishing for a feed, but has no time for
those who think sticking sharp hooks into some poor creature is 'fun'

wrote:

fishing is not crule!!!!!!! i have fished for 10 years and i have never
kill a fish, fishing is not crule if you use barbless hooks and un
hooking mats.

quietguy wrote:
There is an easy test - just stick one of the hooks you use through your
upper lip and give it a good strong pull - if it hurts you it hurts the
fish


Total B.S.

I stick A hook in your lip, and pull, you follow, because if you don't
it hurts MORE

Put one in a fish and pull, he pulls the other way as hard as he can,
because it "does not hurt", he instead feels just trapped, most fish
don't even bleed when hooked in the lip. If fish felt pain, fishing
would not be even fun, they would just swim right up to you, instead of
fighting, (yet you claim this latter kills them, total PETA B.S., not
from any real data.)

Of course they have actually hooked fish up with electronic sensors ,
and proved they lack the part of the brain that senses pain.

I have seen sharks , get "mortally" bitten in a feeding frenzy, and they
two continue to feed until the die, not showing any signs of being bitten.

All this is PETA propaganda, that fish feel pain,, but you know what,
even if they did, I don't CARE, one way, or another, if they would still
fight against the hook, and line, of course they wouldn't, I just hate
people LYING to get their point across.

A baited hook is a very successful means of capturing mammals, yet there
is no one, anywhere, that does that for sport, ever thought of why ?
Sure today, there are laws against it, even for catching "food", but
back when there were no such laws, there is no record of people doing it
for "sport". because there is no "sport" to it. Some did use it, to feed
their families.

Why do you never hear PETA raise all HELL, about the pain caused when a
mountain lion kills a jogger ? Or a shark attacks a swimmer ?, or when
an animal inflicts pain on another animal ? WE "all" know why they don't :-)

If I invented a fish hook that injected Novocain as it stuck the fish,,
do you think PETA would then say fishing with it, would be A OK ?

ASK PETA leaders, hell I could invent it in about 10 min. It would make
me millions as an "approved" PETA fish hook, tell them I'll give them
10% of the profits.

ROTFLMAO

David - who has no probs about fishing for a feed,

What? You you say it's OK to inflict pain, just so people can "enjoy"
fish, and chips ????????????????

WHAT a Moron, the pleasure of eating something, is more pleasure that
catching something, so then the "pain is OK" ? Well nothing to fear,
there was no pain , even in the fish you eat, so you can eat that fish
without guilt .


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread,
Nutri Shield insect repellent. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot
http://www.ezknot.com

quietguy writes:

There is an easy test - just stick one of the hooks you use through your
upper lip and give it a good strong pull - if it hurts you it hurts the
fish

Assuming the mammalian nervous system is the same as the piscine.
--
Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (505) 646-1605
Department of Computer Science FAX -- (505) 646-1002
New Mexico State University http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~pfeiffer

quietguy wrote:
There is an easy test - just stick one of the hooks you use through your
upper lip and give it a good strong pull - if it hurts you it hurts the
fish

David - who has no probs about fishing for a feed, but has no time for
those who think sticking sharp hooks into some poor creature is 'fun'

wrote:

fishing is not crule!!!!!!! i have fished for 10 years and i have never
kill a fish, fishing is not crule if you use barbless hooks and un
hooking mats.

This is typical of those who learned everything they know about animal
life from Walt Disney.

The mouth of most fish is all, or mostly, bone. That's because many of
the fish they eat to survive have fins with sharp spines on the end.
Those fish that have fleshy mouths have very tough mouths as well. I've
been shark fishing many times, seen sharks hooked, fought to the boat,
released, only to see the same fish swim over to the next bait and hook
themselves again. Bluefish will do the same. Remember, we're talking
about fish here, not characters from "Finding Nemo" (sorry, but that is
"make beleave", so is the Easter Bunny, someone had to break the news
to you). Most fish are not very smart, and their memory isn't very
long. So all that pain and suffering you think they feel is very
quickly forgotten, if it was ever there in the first place. No need for
months of therapy here.

You should watch fish feed in the wild sometime (not covered in Finding
Nemo or by Walt Disney), their quite barbaric, to say the least. I'm
afraid their not the cuddly peaceful creatures you thought they were.
In fact, when they grow large enough, just jump in the water with them,
and you to might become part of the food chain.

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:06:06 +0000, Derek Moody
wrote:

In article .com, Radium
wrote:
Fishing is a very cruel sport that slowly and painfully kills the fish.
The fish dies in the water before it is brought out to air. Thats
right, it is not an easy bloodless death by suffocation, but rather a
brutal, blood-spurting death caused by shock, profuse bleeding, and
excruciating pain. The sharp objects on the fish-hook kill the fish by
causing severe pain, hemmorhaging, and shock. This is very cruel and
sadistic.

Suffocation is not what kills the fish. Its the sharp stuff on the hook
that slowly, painfully, yet surely kills the poor fish

Bully boy sport, if you can call it a sport, looking like a garden
gnome!

Research before you rant.

X-posting trolls is a very cruel sport that slowly and painfully kills
usenet. Reasoned debate dies in the thread before the issues are brought to
light.

Free speech, something you and your bully boy friends try hard to
suppress.
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