The truth at last

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Halfordian Golfer wrote:

There is no Global Warming. Anybody who gets his science from
politicians is seriously deluded.

Global Warming is real and nobody with any sense can deny it.
Anybody who disputes the overall findings of the IPCC Assessment
Report Summary released in Paris last month is a flat-earth idiot.

The facts are in, the scientists have spoken. Period. You can have
a debate about how to address Global Warming but the fact that it's
real is no longer in question. And anybody who tells you different
is a friggin' nutcase.


I don't think there's any question as to whether there is global
warming. The question under debate is the cause. IMO, there seems to
be much more historical evidence that its natural rather than man-made.

"Old Guy" wrote in message
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Halfordian Golfer wrote:

There is no Global Warming. Anybody who gets his science from
politicians is seriously deluded.

Global Warming is real and nobody with any sense can deny it.
Anybody who disputes the overall findings of the IPCC Assessment
Report Summary released in Paris last month is a flat-earth idiot.

The facts are in, the scientists have spoken. Period. You can have
a debate about how to address Global Warming but the fact that it's
real is no longer in question. And anybody who tells you different
is a friggin' nutcase.


I don't think there's any question as to whether there is global warming.
The question under debate is the cause. IMO, there seems to be much more
historical evidence that its natural rather than man-made.

The question of whether global warming is the result of human activity or
other causes is debated only by idiots.

Let's see if you can guess why.

Wolfgang
who hastens to add that his expectations are kept tightly in check when
dealing with fools and liars.

Wolfgang wrote:
"Old Guy" wrote in message
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Halfordian Golfer wrote:
There is no Global Warming. Anybody who gets his science from
politicians is seriously deluded.
Global Warming is real and nobody with any sense can deny it.
Anybody who disputes the overall findings of the IPCC Assessment
Report Summary released in Paris last month is a flat-earth idiot.

The facts are in, the scientists have spoken. Period. You can have
a debate about how to address Global Warming but the fact that it's
real is no longer in question. And anybody who tells you different
is a friggin' nutcase.

I don't think there's any question as to whether there is global warming.
The question under debate is the cause. IMO, there seems to be much more
historical evidence that its natural rather than man-made.

The question of whether global warming is the result of human activity or
other causes is debated only by idiots.

Right. Those with common sense know that its a natural cycle.

You seem to think that its caused by humans. What does that make you?


Let's see if you can guess why.

Wolfgang
who hastens to add that his expectations are kept tightly in check when
dealing with fools and liars.

From self-realization?

"Old Guy" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:
"Old Guy" wrote in message
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Halfordian Golfer wrote:
There is no Global Warming. Anybody who gets his science from
politicians is seriously deluded.
Global Warming is real and nobody with any sense can deny it.
Anybody who disputes the overall findings of the IPCC Assessment
Report Summary released in Paris last month is a flat-earth idiot.

The facts are in, the scientists have spoken. Period. You can have
a debate about how to address Global Warming but the fact that it's
real is no longer in question. And anybody who tells you different
is a friggin' nutcase.

I don't think there's any question as to whether there is global
warming. The question under debate is the cause. IMO, there seems to be
much more historical evidence that its natural rather than man-made.

The question of whether global warming is the result of human activity or
other causes is debated only by idiots.

Right. Those with common sense know that its a natural cycle.

Those with common sense understand the question, which indicates a certain
lack on your part.

You seem to think that its caused by humans.

Let's see whether you can demonstrate that the way things seem to you says
anything at all about validity, shall we?

What does that make you?

The way things seem to you says nothing about me. However, you may rest
assured that there are folks here who understand perfectly what it says
about you.

Let's see if you can guess why.

Wolfgang
who hastens to add that his expectations are kept tightly in check when
dealing with fools and liars.

From self-realization?

How much time would you guess you spend each day congratulating yourself on
your exemplary wit?

Wolfgang
those who anticipate watching it wrestle with the answer to the question
will please be patient. we are still trying to make it recognize the
question.

Wolfgang wrote:
"Old Guy" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:
"Old Guy" wrote in message
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Halfordian Golfer wrote:
There is no Global Warming. Anybody who gets his science from
politicians is seriously deluded.
Global Warming is real and nobody with any sense can deny it.
Anybody who disputes the overall findings of the IPCC Assessment
Report Summary released in Paris last month is a flat-earth idiot.

The facts are in, the scientists have spoken. Period. You can have
a debate about how to address Global Warming but the fact that it's
real is no longer in question. And anybody who tells you different
is a friggin' nutcase.

I don't think there's any question as to whether there is global
warming. The question under debate is the cause. IMO, there seems to be
much more historical evidence that its natural rather than man-made.
The question of whether global warming is the result of human activity or
other causes is debated only by idiots.
Right. Those with common sense know that its a natural cycle.

Those with common sense understand the question, which indicates a certain
lack on your part.

You seem to think that its caused by humans.

Let's see whether you can demonstrate that the way things seem to you says
anything at all about validity, shall we?


Read the comments of the co-founder of Greenpeace. Read the science.
Maybe you'll get some clue. Or not.

Maybe you prefer to follow the political line rather than rational
science. If so, keep rationalizing your view based on hysteria rather
than reality.

"Old Guy" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:
"Old Guy" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:
"Old Guy" wrote in message
...
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Halfordian Golfer wrote:
There is no Global Warming. Anybody who gets his science from
politicians is seriously deluded.
Global Warming is real and nobody with any sense can deny it.
Anybody who disputes the overall findings of the IPCC Assessment
Report Summary released in Paris last month is a flat-earth idiot.

The facts are in, the scientists have spoken. Period. You can have
a debate about how to address Global Warming but the fact that it's
real is no longer in question. And anybody who tells you different
is a friggin' nutcase.

I don't think there's any question as to whether there is global
warming. The question under debate is the cause. IMO, there seems to
be much more historical evidence that its natural rather than
man-made.
The question of whether global warming is the result of human activity
or other causes is debated only by idiots.
Right. Those with common sense know that its a natural cycle.

Those with common sense understand the question, which indicates a
certain lack on your part.

You seem to think that its caused by humans.

Let's see whether you can demonstrate that the way things seem to you
says anything at all about validity, shall we?


Read the comments of the co-founder of Greenpeace.

The co-founder of Greenpeace has addressed the question of how things seem
to you? Why?

Read the science.

Perhaps you could be a bit more specific? Titles, authors, issues,
dates.....all of that sort of thing would be very helpful.

Maybe you'll get some clue. Or not.

Well, what the hell, why don't you throw caution to the winds just this once
and provide me with one of these mysterious clues?

Maybe you prefer to follow the political line rather than rational
science.

Once again, I'd appreciate it if you could refresh my memory......what is my
political stance?

If so, keep rationalizing your view based on hysteria rather than reality.

Reality? Hm.......

So, if your furnace does not produce any heat, why do you keep it?

Wolfgang
who will, for the moment, hold in abeyance questions concerning why the
moron bought it in the first place.

Wolfgang wrote:

The co-founder of Greenpeace has addressed the question of how things seem
to you? Why?


So you didn't watch the BBS special after all, did you....


Read the science.

Perhaps you could be a bit more specific? Titles, authors, issues,
dates.....all of that sort of thing would be very helpful.


So you didn't watch the BBS special after all, did you....

Old Guy wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Global Warming is real and nobody with any sense can deny it.
Anybody who disputes the overall findings of the IPCC Assessment
Report Summary released in Paris last month is a flat-earth idiot.

The facts are in, the scientists have spoken. Period. You can have
a debate about how to address Global Warming but the fact that it's
real is no longer in question. And anybody who tells you different
is a friggin' nutcase.

I don't think there's any question as to whether there is global
warming. The question under debate is the cause. IMO, there seems to
be much more historical evidence that its natural rather than man-made.

Your opinion is wrong. You can believe the earth is flat, the
sun revolves around the earth and human beings were created
"as is" on a Saturday 6,000 years if you want to but you'd be
just as demonstrably wrong as you are about the causes of global
warming. There is no more "debate", it's over.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Old Guy wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Global Warming is real and nobody with any sense can deny it.
Anybody who disputes the overall findings of the IPCC Assessment
Report Summary released in Paris last month is a flat-earth idiot.

The facts are in, the scientists have spoken. Period. You can have
a debate about how to address Global Warming but the fact that it's
real is no longer in question. And anybody who tells you different
is a friggin' nutcase.

I don't think there's any question as to whether there is global
warming. The question under debate is the cause. IMO, there seems to
be much more historical evidence that its natural rather than man-made.

Your opinion is wrong. You can believe the earth is flat, the
sun revolves around the earth and human beings were created
"as is" on a Saturday 6,000 years if you want to but you'd be
just as demonstrably wrong as you are about the causes of global
warming. There is no more "debate", it's over.


Your opinion is noted. Its also questioned by a many credible scientists.

So that makes it YOUR OPINION, not a fact. Only an idiot would state
their opinion as fact.

Why would the co-founder of Greenpeace make statements that would
contradict the opinion that global warming is man-made?

And, in case you haven't been paying attention, the debate is far from
"over", its just getting started.

Old Guy wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Old Guy wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Global Warming is real and nobody with any sense can deny it.
Anybody who disputes the overall findings of the IPCC Assessment
Report Summary released in Paris last month is a flat-earth idiot.

The facts are in, the scientists have spoken. Period. You can have
a debate about how to address Global Warming but the fact that it's
real is no longer in question. And anybody who tells you different
is a friggin' nutcase.

I don't think there's any question as to whether there is global
warming. The question under debate is the cause. IMO, there seems
to be much more historical evidence that its natural rather than
man-made.

Your opinion is wrong. You can believe the earth is flat, the
sun revolves around the earth and human beings were created
"as is" on a Saturday 6,000 years if you want to but you'd be
just as demonstrably wrong as you are about the causes of global
warming. There is no more "debate", it's over.

Your opinion is noted. Its also questioned by a many credible scientists.

There is not one single credible climate scientist in the world
who disagrees that the contribution of human activities to global
warming is significant. If a climate scientist questioned this in
the face of the overwhelming body of facts that proves it beyond
doubt then he would no longer be a credible climate scientist.

"Global atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide, methane and
nitrous oxide have increased markedly as a result of human activities."

That's not an opinion, mine or anyone else's, it's fact. Ignore it
if you want but you should do more than listen to Rush Limbaugh before
pronouncing someone else an idiot.

And, in case you haven't been paying attention, the debate is far from
"over", its just getting started.

I have been paying attention and that particular part of the debate
is done, dead, over, finished. Where have you been ?

http://www.ipcc.ch/

--
Ken Fortenberry