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Old March 13th, 2007, 04:04 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Old Guy wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
There is not one single credible climate scientist in the world
who disagrees that the contribution of human activities to global
warming is significant. If a climate scientist questioned this in
the face of the overwhelming body of facts that proves it beyond
doubt then he would no longer be a credible climate scientist.



OK, so what you're saying is that anyone who questions man-made global
warming is no longer credible? Is that the criteria you use to
determine credibility?


Human activities have increased global atmospheric concentrations
of greenhouse gases *AND* greenhouse gases contribute to global
warming. No *credible* scientist can disagree with these facts, if
they do disagree they are by definition not credible. That's my
criteria.


So you didn't watch the BBS special after all, did you....

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...11497638&hl=en




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Old March 13th, 2007, 04:15 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Ken Fortenberry
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Old Guy wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Old Guy wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
There is not one single credible climate scientist in the world
who disagrees that the contribution of human activities to global
warming is significant. If a climate scientist questioned this in
the face of the overwhelming body of facts that proves it beyond
doubt then he would no longer be a credible climate scientist.


OK, so what you're saying is that anyone who questions man-made
global warming is no longer credible? Is that the criteria you use
to determine credibility?


Human activities have increased global atmospheric concentrations
of greenhouse gases *AND* greenhouse gases contribute to global
warming. No *credible* scientist can disagree with these facts, if
they do disagree they are by definition not credible. That's my
criteria.


So you didn't watch the BBS special after all, did you....


No. I never claimed to have followed your link. Who wants to watch
some crackpot preach bad science to nitwits ? Now if you wanted to
post a link to a refereed journal I might follow that.

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Old March 13th, 2007, 04:26 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Old Guy
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:


No. I never claimed to have followed your link. Who wants to watch
some crackpot preach bad science to nitwits ? Now if you wanted to
post a link to a refereed journal I might follow that.


You're right. That crackpot founder of Greenpeace can't be trusted to
come up with anything near reality.


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Old March 13th, 2007, 04:46 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Ken Fortenberry
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Old Guy wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:


No. I never claimed to have followed your link. Who wants to watch
some crackpot preach bad science to nitwits ? Now if you wanted to
post a link to a refereed journal I might follow that.


You're right.


Yeah, I know.

That crackpot founder of Greenpeace can't be trusted to
come up with anything near reality.


I wouldn't know, I didn't watch it. But if he claims that human
activities don't increase greenhouse gases and that greenhouse
gases don't contribute to global warming then he is indeed a
crackpot who is reality challenged.

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Old March 13th, 2007, 05:11 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Old Guy wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:


No. I never claimed to have followed your link. Who wants to watch
some crackpot preach bad science to nitwits ? Now if you wanted to
post a link to a refereed journal I might follow that.


You're right.


Yeah, I know.

That crackpot founder of Greenpeace can't be trusted to come up with
anything near reality.


I wouldn't know, I didn't watch it.


Of course you didn't watch it. Viewing might impact your POV and cause
you to question your previous conclusions. Those scientists from TU,
NASA and MIT can't be right because they disagree with your POV.


But if he claims that human
activities don't increase greenhouse gases and that greenhouse
gases don't contribute to global warming then he is indeed a
crackpot who is reality challenged.


Yeah, anybody who questions your POV must a crackpot. Because its not
about science, its about politics, funding and supporting your POV.

So any scientist that shows any skepticism and may question studies must
be a crackpot. If you have drawn your own conclusions, anyone who
questions you must be a crackpot. Anyone coming up with facts that my
contradict your POV must be a crackpot and synthesizing numbers.

Yeah, I see where you're coming from.

Don't waste you time watching that video!! Regardless of the the facts
presented, those crackpots disagree with your POV.


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Old March 13th, 2007, 05:19 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Ken Fortenberry
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Default The truth at last

Old Guy wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Old Guy wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
No. I never claimed to have followed your link. Who wants to watch
some crackpot preach bad science to nitwits ? Now if you wanted to
post a link to a refereed journal I might follow that.

But if he claims that human
activities don't increase greenhouse gases and that greenhouse
gases don't contribute to global warming then he is indeed a
crackpot who is reality challenged.


Yeah, anybody who questions your POV must a crackpot.


Anybody who refuses to accept scientific fact must be a crackpot.

... Anyone coming up with facts that my
contradict your POV must be a crackpot and synthesizing numbers.


I told you this before, if you have facts let's see them. Point
me to refereed, actual science not some crackpot Internet site.
You can't.

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Old March 13th, 2007, 05:39 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Old Guy
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Default The truth at last

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Old Guy wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Old Guy wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
No. I never claimed to have followed your link. Who wants to watch
some crackpot preach bad science to nitwits ? Now if you wanted to
post a link to a refereed journal I might follow that.

But if he claims that human
activities don't increase greenhouse gases and that greenhouse
gases don't contribute to global warming then he is indeed a
crackpot who is reality challenged.


Yeah, anybody who questions your POV must a crackpot.


Anybody who refuses to accept scientific fact must be a crackpot.

... Anyone coming up with facts that my contradict your POV must be a
crackpot and synthesizing numbers.


I told you this before, if you have facts let's see them. Point
me to refereed, actual science not some crackpot Internet site.
You can't.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...11497638&hl=en



Oh, but you refuse to view it because its just a bunch of crackpots.
Why are they crackpots? Because they disagree with your POV.

Doesn't matter who they are. Doesn't matter if its actual science or
not. It disagrees with your POV.

Doesn't matter if the video was produced by the BBC. They must be
crackpots because they don't agree with your POV.

Doesn't matter if the video was produced by the BBC. The BBC must be
crackpots because they disagree with your POV.

Doesn't matter if the scientists interviewed in the video are experts
(PdD's) in their fields related to global warming. They must be
crackpots because they don't agree with your POV.


Please don't watch the scientific evidence as presented in the BBC
video. All those guys are just crackpots because they disagree with
your POV.

And its a crackpot internet site because they are rerunning a video that
disagrees with your POV.



And in ALL cases, don't question any evidence that may contradict your
POV. It must have been gathered by crackpots. They must be crackpots
because they disagree with your POV.

All scientists MUST accept ALL the work of others regardless of what is
presented. Its the job of the scientific comunity to never question or
repeat the research of others. Especially if the work agrees with your POV.


 




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