The truth at last

On Mar 13, 2:48 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:
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http://www.cgd.ucar.edu/cas/GLOB_CHA..._figs/fig3.gif

the last 50 years can be "accurately" reproduced when both

I wanted to write "can only be" up there, but my fingers didn't
listen...

When has anything that produced the results you wanted to see ever failed to
be convincing enough?

Plenty. Even if results come out as a scientist suspects they would,
they should immediately be asking themselves about the internal
validity, external validity, construct validity, etc., of their
experiment. Plenty of things can go wrong, even if the p-values look
great. Unfortunately, scientists being the human and social creatures
they are, are not always as objective as they'd like to believe
themselves to be. Science, for better or worse, is a social process.

Jon.

On Mar 13, 4:39 pm, wrote:
On Mar 13, 2:48 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:

wrote in message

http://www.cgd.ucar.edu/cas/GLOB_CHA..._figs/fig3.gif

the last 50 years can be "accurately" reproduced when both

I wanted to write "can only be" up there, but my fingers didn't
listen...

When has anything that produced the results you wanted to see ever failed to
be convincing enough?

Plenty. Even if results come out as a scientist suspects they would,
they should immediately be asking themselves about the internal
validity, external validity, construct validity, etc., of their
experiment. Plenty of things can go wrong, even if the p-values look
great. Unfortunately, scientists being the human and social creatures
they are, are not always as objective as they'd like to believe
themselves to be.

Hm......

You could be right, maybe climatologists aren't real scientists like
you and me. Yeah, I think you're onto something here.......stuff like
that would NEVER occur to THEM. I mean, if it did....mind you,
IF.....why then.....um......well, it would take them YEARS to come up
with something like this! ****, they'd have to have.....uh.....well,
like instruments and stuff.....and theories......and
experiments.....and them whattyacallit.....anovas and stuff. Yeah!
And then....and then.....well....they'd have to like rite jurnal
articles and stuff......and who would read that stuff onacounta you
and kennie have been like two busy latley? Temperatures! They'd
haveta take temperatures! And balloons! Yeah!

Science, for better or worse, is a social process.

Well, it ain't ALL tea and crumpets in the lab I frequent daily.

Wolfgang
who can think of little he would enjoy more in the way of scientific
experimentation than an opportunity to place seismometers on a few of
the skulls around here.