Tying in sunlight

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote

If you ever need to replace your Ott, you might consider Solux.



I've seen the Solux specs before and agree they look better than OTT

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 23:01:54 GMT, "Larry L"
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote

If you ever need to replace your Ott, you might consider Solux.



I've seen the Solux specs before and agree they look better than OTT

OTT, unfortunately, has a terrible reputation for reliability that I've just
never been able to get beyond, no matter how good the light it produces and
how much I want one.

Perhaps the Solux will prove to be a more robust design...

/daytripper (Time will tell, and fwiw I'll be watching)

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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 23:01:54 GMT, "Larry L"
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote

If you ever need to replace your Ott, you might consider Solux.



I've seen the Solux specs before and agree they look better than OTT

OTT, unfortunately, has a terrible reputation for reliability that
I've just never been able to get beyond, no matter how good the light
it produces and how much I want one.

Perhaps the Solux will prove to be a more robust design...

/daytripper (Time will tell, and fwiw I'll be watching)

I haven't heard any Ott complaints, and certainly never experienced any.

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On 28 Mar 2007 23:26:01 GMT, Scott Seidman
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daytripper wrote in
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 23:01:54 GMT, "Larry L"
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote

If you ever need to replace your Ott, you might consider Solux.



I've seen the Solux specs before and agree they look better than OTT

OTT, unfortunately, has a terrible reputation for reliability that
I've just never been able to get beyond, no matter how good the light
it produces and how much I want one.

Perhaps the Solux will prove to be a more robust design...

/daytripper (Time will tell, and fwiw I'll be watching)

I haven't heard any Ott complaints, and certainly never experienced any.

If I may, what makes these bulbs any "better" than any other such
K-range bulbs? IOW, why are these "better" than another 5500K (or
xxxxK, apples to apples) bulb?

TC,
R

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sseidman wrote
I haven't heard any Ott complaints, and certainly never experienced
any.

If I may, what makes these bulbs any "better" than any other such
K-range bulbs? IOW, why are these "better" than another 5500K (or
xxxxK, apples to apples) bulb?

TC,
R



I don't know about better or worse, but there are differences: the ott
is flourescent, and the solux is an incandescent bulb, or at least looks
like one, so is likely easier to package in a variety of assorted ways.
Solux claims, and I believe (http://www.solux.net/Ott_lite.htm), that it
has a spectrum closer to daylight than Ott-light. Whether this makes a
difference to fly tiers, I don't know.

A big plus for Solux, though, is that they are a local Rochester company,
and the head guy is working on a project with some of our undergrads.
Seems to be a nice guy, a hard worker, and generous with his time for the
undergrads. I'd probably buy a Solux today if I needed another lamp, and
go out of my way to do it if I needed to, but not because I have a real
problem with Ott reliability.

A big plus for the Ott, by the way, is that Joanne's Fabrics sells them,
thus if you join the Joanne club, and wait till you get the coupon book
mailed to you, as they will periodically do, you can get an Ott lite at
40% or 50% off!


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On 28 Mar 2007 23:58:11 GMT, Scott Seidman
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sseidman wrote
I haven't heard any Ott complaints, and certainly never experienced
any.

If I may, what makes these bulbs any "better" than any other such
K-range bulbs? IOW, why are these "better" than another 5500K (or
xxxxK, apples to apples) bulb?

TC,
R



I don't know about better or worse, but there are differences: the ott
is flourescent, and the solux is an incandescent bulb, or at least looks
like one, so is likely easier to package in a variety of assorted ways.
Solux claims, and I believe (http://www.solux.net/Ott_lite.htm), that it
has a spectrum closer to daylight than Ott-light. Whether this makes a
difference to fly tiers, I don't know.

A big plus for Solux, though, is that they are a local Rochester company,
and the head guy is working on a project with some of our undergrads.
Seems to be a nice guy, a hard worker, and generous with his time for the
undergrads. I'd probably buy a Solux today if I needed another lamp, and
go out of my way to do it if I needed to, but not because I have a real
problem with Ott reliability.

A big plus for the Ott, by the way, is that Joanne's Fabrics sells them,
thus if you join the Joanne club, and wait till you get the coupon book
mailed to you, as they will periodically do, you can get an Ott lite at
40% or 50% off!

Oops...I don't mean the _fixture_, I mean the lamp/bulb. I understand
one is CFL and one is halogen, but Solux seems to tell you what the bulb
actually is, whereas OTT doesn't. Solux gives color temp, etc., OTT
didn't seem to.

The Solux lamp/bulb will fit into a standard old Home Depot/Lowes "low
voltage"/MR-16 fixure (about 15.00 USD or so). I have them on boats (if
you saw the thread with Larry, myself, etc. on solar systems, I talked
about them) as aux lighting, galley lighting, chart lighting, etc. If
you want to use them with 120vac, keep the transformer attached, if
12vdc, wire without the transformer.

IAC, Google "5100K compact fluorescent" and you oughta find plenty CFLs,
and Google "full spectrum MR-16" and you'll get lots of halogens.

And I'm still interested in opinions as to why OTT or Solux are "better"
- they may be, but I can't find anything that would convince me they are
- it all seems to be salespitch.

TC,
R

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And I'm still interested in opinions as to why OTT or Solux are "better"
- they may be, but I can't find anything that would convince me they are
- it all seems to be salespitch.


Are you wondering about "better than a standard task light", "better than a
standard CFL", or such? Try http://www.solux.net/comparison.htm, and they
have a pretty good comparison. The standard solux uses is basically a
spectral comparison to daylight, and they claim they're better than the
products they compare too, which seem pretty representative.

So far as "is it better to use a light source that's close to daylight?"
who really knows? They try to address some of this stuff in the solux faq,
http://www.solux.net/faq.htm, but its still somewhat subjective.

I find my ott to be pretty convenient and portable, and I got it at a
reasonable price. I most definitely prefer to tie with it instead of with
ambient light, or even with "standard" flourescent task lights like the one
in my circular magnifier.


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A big additional for Solux, though, is that they are a bounded Rochester company, and the arch guy is alive on a activity with some of our undergrads. Seems to be a nice guy, a harder worker, and acceptable with his time for the undergrads.

On 28 Mar 2007 23:26:01 GMT, Scott Seidman
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daytripper wrote in
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 23:01:54 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:


"Ken Fortenberry" wrote

If you ever need to replace your Ott, you might consider Solux.



I've seen the Solux specs before and agree they look better than OTT

OTT, unfortunately, has a terrible reputation for reliability that
I've just never been able to get beyond, no matter how good the light
it produces and how much I want one.

Perhaps the Solux will prove to be a more robust design...

/daytripper (Time will tell, and fwiw I'll be watching)

I haven't heard any Ott complaints, and certainly never experienced any.

Well good luck to you. I did significant research on the Ott light. Hundreds
if not thousands of complaints are just a Google away, and they draw a
distinct pattern. There's no way I'd buy one...

/daytripper

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Well good luck to you. I did significant research on the Ott light.
Hundreds if not thousands of complaints are just a Google away, and
they draw a distinct pattern. There's no way I'd buy one...

/daytripper


I use the light at http://www.questoutdoors.net/gear/tested/ottlite/, for
the same purpose, even with the same vise. I don't particularly care for
the flex-arm with the magnifier that seems to be marketed for fly tying--
it just doesn't look real robust. The package that I have looks like it
would stop a bullet, though. I've tied just about every fly I've tied in
three or four years under it, which granted, isn't as many as I would have
liked to tie, but I find I really prefer to have it instead of not having
it. Given a choice of an Ott light, or nothing, and the $40 or so I paid
for three or four years of use, I can say I've gotten my money's worth.
There are probably some who haven't.

I'd love it if you can point me in the right direction for google, though.
I tried "ott light", "Ott lite review", "ott lite complaint", "ott lite
customer service", and the like, and really haven't hit anything
substantial.

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