Perspective

"Wolfgang" wrote...


It appears that people will forever find reasons to kill one
another......and it doesn't take much of a reason.


I'm beginning to wonder if the above would be more properly phrased:
"...must forever find reasons not to kill one another" as its pervasiveness
indicates (to me) that the strange desire to kill another human being may
very well be part of the human condition.

Out of this horrific event will of course come the knee-jerk responses. Some
on the left will call for some new way to ban guns. Some on the right will
call for enforcement of laws we already have -- it's a script on both sides.
Those in power will bloviate for a while and some minor, token action will
be taken. But until something real is done (and no, I don't claim to know
what) nothing will change. To be "horrified" (Bush) or to observe a moment
of silence (Pelosi and the House) is simply disingenuous. While I believe
that expressing some sort of sadness is better than being anesthetized to
violence, how can we truly be surprised? More relieved, I think. Relieved
that it happened "there" and not "here."

Dan

On Apr 16, 3:46 pm, "Daniel-San" (Rot13)
wrote:
"Wolfgang" wrote...

It appears that people will forever find reasons to kill one
another......and it doesn't take much of a reason.

I'm beginning to wonder if the above would be more properly phrased:
"...must forever find reasons not to kill one another" as its pervasiveness
indicates (to me) that the strange desire to kill another human being may
very well be part of the human condition.

Out of this horrific event will of course come the knee-jerk responses. Some
on the left will call for some new way to ban guns. Some on the right will
call for enforcement of laws we already have -- it's a script on both sides.
Those in power will bloviate for a while and some minor, token action will
be taken. But until something real is done (and no, I don't claim to know
what) nothing will change. To be "horrified" (Bush) or to observe a moment
of silence (Pelosi and the House) is simply disingenuous. While I believe
that expressing some sort of sadness is better than being anesthetized to
violence, how can we truly be surprised? More relieved, I think. Relieved
that it happened "there" and not "here."

Dan

I allways though the term "cruel and inhuman" as a applied to the
death penalty was ironic. Noting is more human than killing other
humans.
Someone had a "lemming theory" that applied to human behavior. The
more of us there are the more will kill each other. the rate of
killing will be exponential and the sea we run into may be measured in
megatons'

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On Apr 16, 3:46 pm, "Daniel-San" (Rot13)
wrote:
"Wolfgang" wrote...

It appears that people will forever find reasons to kill one
another......and it doesn't take much of a reason.

I'm beginning to wonder if the above would be more properly phrased:
"...must forever find reasons not to kill one another" as its
pervasiveness
indicates (to me) that the strange desire to kill another human being may
very well be part of the human condition.

Out of this horrific event will of course come the knee-jerk responses.
Some
on the left will call for some new way to ban guns. Some on the right
will
call for enforcement of laws we already have -- it's a script on both
sides.
Those in power will bloviate for a while and some minor, token action
will
be taken. But until something real is done (and no, I don't claim to know
what) nothing will change. To be "horrified" (Bush) or to observe a
moment
of silence (Pelosi and the House) is simply disingenuous. While I believe
that expressing some sort of sadness is better than being anesthetized to
violence, how can we truly be surprised? More relieved, I think. Relieved
that it happened "there" and not "here."

Dan

I allways though the term "cruel and inhuman" as a applied to the
death penalty was ironic. Noting is more human than killing other
humans.
Someone had a "lemming theory" that applied to human behavior. The
more of us there are the more will kill each other. the rate of
killing will be exponential and the sea we run into may be measured in
megatons'


The fine and the time are for the crime, You still have a debt to
society.....an eye for an eye....the death penalty equals maximum organ
donation.

john

asadi wrote:

The fine and the time are for the crime, You still have a debt to
society.....an eye for an eye....the death penalty equals maximum organ
donation.

John, I've never been able to tell whether you're hilariously
droll or creepy as hell.

I'll tell you one thing though, I hope I never have an organ
that you want donated. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
t...
asadi wrote:
The fine and the time are for the crime, You still have a debt to
society.....an eye for an eye....the death penalty equals maximum organ
donation.

John, I've never been able to tell whether you're hilariously
droll or creepy as hell.

I'll tell you one thing though, I hope I never have an organ
that you want donated. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken, the sign at the license bureau says I can save seven lives by donating
my organs....seven and 'enrich' the lives of some forty odd others.

Too often or in a way that is too accepted nowadays, a man pays the fine and
does a little time and all is well with the world...I just don't think that
'that' is truly paying your debt to society.

After the fine the litterbug should pick up some trash and the robber work
for free...I think such 'repayment for my sins' strictly enforced by dad is
one of the reasons I have the high morals I do.

john

asadi wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
asadi wrote:
The fine and the time are for the crime, You still have a debt to
society.....an eye for an eye....the death penalty equals maximum organ
donation.

John, I've never been able to tell whether you're hilariously
droll or creepy as hell.

I'll tell you one thing though, I hope I never have an organ
that you want donated. ;-)

Ken, the sign at the license bureau says I can save seven lives by donating
my organs....seven and 'enrich' the lives of some forty odd others.

Voluntary organ donation is a laudable thing for those who believe
in it. If you're an official organ donor in your state, good for you.

Too often or in a way that is too accepted nowadays, a man pays the fine and
does a little time and all is well with the world...I just don't think that
'that' is truly paying your debt to society.

After the fine the litterbug should pick up some trash and the robber work
for free...I think such 'repayment for my sins' strictly enforced by dad is
one of the reasons I have the high morals I do.

Well, if you believe in harvesting organs from executed prisoners
you needn't hurt your arm patting yourself on the back for having
"high morals".

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
et...


Well, if you believe in harvesting organs from executed prisoners
you needn't hurt your arm patting yourself on the back for having
"high morals".

Amazing. And some of you STILL think this is a human being......right?

Wolfgang

"Ken Fortenberry"

Well, if you believe in harvesting organs from executed prisoners
you needn't hurt your arm patting yourself on the back for having
"high morals".

--
Ken Fortenberry

NO, I do not believe in harvesting organs from executed criminals...I
believe in that criminal paying his debt. His fine and time were for the
crime right? Where in that has he paid his debt?

He took and life and he should save a live to repay the debt....kinda like
old contrare in 'Little Big Man.' If the crime was especially heinous, I
would not harvest any organs from him, I would 'take' two organs..a lung and
appendix...and some of those who kill families and groups, well, the
criminal could go free after I took his heart and liver....

This is not a morbid, gruesome thought. ..but a long overdue consideration
of a victims rights and a criminal's responsibilities...

You know, at thirty years old, I could have cooked the books on a company,
stole millions and ruined the lives of hard working good hearted people,
forcing them into to poverty and a wall mart greeters coat until they die,
done ten years at a white collar prison with cable TV and a tennis court,
been out for fifteen years and be a wealthy man...would I have paid my debt?

just a thought...........john

"asadi" wrote in news:qnWUh.15453
:

the death penalty equals maximum organ
donation.


I've always thought of it as retroactive abortion.

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Scott
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