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Old April 18th, 2007, 01:24 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Wolfgang
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Default Which trout trip to take?


"Ed Wicks" wrote in message
...
Have not done fly fishing for many years. Never fished for trout. Have
a chance to take either a float trip of several miles down a river or
fish a few thousand private feet of "trophy trout" river. Any reason to
take one over the other? Both trips guided. Thanks. Ed


Fishing from a moving boat severely limits opportunities (not to mention the
physical possibility) for squatting on the bank while chewing on a piece of
grass and staring stupidly out across the water, and thus on the likelihood
of impressing anyone who might be watching (you may rest assured that the
guide WILL be watching) with your contemplative nature, your undisturbed
poise, and your willingness to read the water carefully before plunging
headlong into the raging torrent to traumatize every fish within a hundred
yards. In fishing from a moving boat, daring bits of technical wading skill
in an effort to reach just the right spot to **** up a simple cast to a hold
in which any self-respecting fish wouldn't be caught dead (and which could
have been reached from shore by a competent caster, anyway) are out of the
question. In fishing from a moving boat which will, for the most part,
remain at a more or less fixed and short distance from shore in a particular
run, there is no good reason to see just how far you can really chuck a bug
with this rig, and whether you can actually control 90 feet of line on a
long drift through conflicting currents.....or figure out what to do in the
unlikely event of a hookup. While fishing from a moving boat, you can't
pick up rocks near the bank to see what kind of creepy-crawlies reside on
their nether regions. You can't kick bits of dry-docked driftwood back out
into the current to see what happens to them. You can't skip stones on the
flat, smooth stretches. You can't drape yourself like some boneless
proto-reptilian ancestor over a smooth and sunny boulder and wait to see
whether a fish will come to take advantage of the perfect hold next to it.
You can't build a miniature wing-dam in the hope of creating a new channel
to which you can return at some unspecified date in the distant future and
catch fish whose lives would have been entirely different had you not
changed the course of history.

In short, in a moving drift boat, there's pretty much nothing to do but
fish......which you could have done with a lot less fuss and expense at your
neighborhood bluegill pond. What's the point?

Wolfgang


  #2  
Old April 18th, 2007, 03:35 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
BJ Conner
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Default Which trout trip to take?

On Apr 18, 5:24 am, "Wolfgang" wrote:
"Ed Wicks" wrote in message

...

Have not done fly fishing for many years. Never fished for trout. Have
a chance to take either a float trip of several miles down a river or
fish a few thousand private feet of "trophy trout" river. Any reason to
take one over the other? Both trips guided. Thanks. Ed


Fishing from a moving boat severely limits opportunities (not to mention the
physical possibility) for squatting on the bank while chewing on a piece of
grass and staring stupidly out across the water, and thus on the likelihood
of impressing anyone who might be watching (you may rest assured that the
guide WILL be watching) with your contemplative nature, your undisturbed
poise, and your willingness to read the water carefully before plunging
headlong into the raging torrent to traumatize every fish within a hundred
yards. In fishing from a moving boat, daring bits of technical wading skill
in an effort to reach just the right spot to **** up a simple cast to a hold
in which any self-respecting fish wouldn't be caught dead (and which could
have been reached from shore by a competent caster, anyway) are out of the
question. In fishing from a moving boat which will, for the most part,
remain at a more or less fixed and short distance from shore in a particular
run, there is no good reason to see just how far you can really chuck a bug
with this rig, and whether you can actually control 90 feet of line on a
long drift through conflicting currents.....or figure out what to do in the
unlikely event of a hookup. While fishing from a moving boat, you can't
pick up rocks near the bank to see what kind of creepy-crawlies reside on
their nether regions. You can't kick bits of dry-docked driftwood back out
into the current to see what happens to them. You can't skip stones on the
flat, smooth stretches. You can't drape yourself like some boneless
proto-reptilian ancestor over a smooth and sunny boulder and wait to see
whether a fish will come to take advantage of the perfect hold next to it.
You can't build a miniature wing-dam in the hope of creating a new channel
to which you can return at some unspecified date in the distant future and
catch fish whose lives would have been entirely different had you not
changed the course of history.

In short, in a moving drift boat, there's pretty much nothing to do but
fish......which you could have done with a lot less fuss and expense at your
neighborhood bluegill pond. What's the point?

Wolfgang


I had to check your address, I though it was going to be "Wolfgang@t-
online@de". glad to seen Cheny hasn't exported you.

  #3  
Old April 18th, 2007, 11:17 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Wolfgang
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Default Which trout trip to take?


"BJ Conner" wrote in message
ps.com...


I had to check your address, I though it was going to be "Wolfgang@t-
online@de". glad to seen Cheny hasn't exported you.


O.k., I've looked at this off and on all day long. I confess, I am
absolutely stumped.

Wolfgang


  #4  
Old April 18th, 2007, 10:26 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
BJ Conner
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Default Which trout trip to take?

On Apr 18, 3:17 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:
"BJ Conner" wrote in message

ps.com...

I had to check your address, I though it was going to be "Wolfgang@t-
online@de". glad to seen Cheny hasn't exported you.


O.k., I've looked at this off and on all day long. I confess, I am
absolutely stumped.

Wolfgang


I just though your above post was kind of Connorish. I am sure we all
miss him, I just wondered if you moved to T-oline and to take over for
him or Cheney had relocated you.

  #5  
Old April 18th, 2007, 11:42 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Wolfgang
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Default Which trout trip to take?


"BJ Conner" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 18, 3:17 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:
"BJ Conner" wrote in message

ps.com...

I had to check your address, I though it was going to be "Wolfgang@t-
online@de". glad to seen Cheny hasn't exported you.


O.k., I've looked at this off and on all day long. I confess, I am
absolutely stumped.

Wolfgang


I just though your above post was kind of Connorish.


O.k., NOW I'm offended! I post what is probably the funniest AND most
helpful message this group has ever seen and this......THIS!......is the
thanks I get??!!

I am sure we all miss him,


Not for long, I think.

I just wondered if you moved to T-oline and to take over for
him or Cheney had relocated you.


I still don't get the Cheney reference.

Wolfgang
little help?


  #6  
Old April 18th, 2007, 10:47 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
BJ Conner
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Default Which trout trip to take?

On Apr 18, 3:42 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:
"BJ Conner" wrote in message

oups.com...

On Apr 18, 3:17 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:
"BJ Conner" wrote in message


oups.com...


I had to check your address, I though it was going to be "Wolfgang@t-
online@de". glad to seen Cheny hasn't exported you.


O.k., I've looked at this off and on all day long. I confess, I am
absolutely stumped.


Wolfgang


I just though your above post was kind of Connorish.


O.k., NOW I'm offended! I post what is probably the funniest AND most
helpful message this group has ever seen and this......THIS!......is the
thanks I get??!!

I am sure we all miss him,


Not for long, I think.

I just wondered if you moved to T-oline and to take over for
him or Cheney had relocated you.


I still don't get the Cheney reference.

Wolfgang
little help?


Google "CIA Renditions"
You never know when someone will disappear.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in678155.shtml

  #7  
Old April 19th, 2007, 01:42 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Wolfgang
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Default Which trout trip to take?


"BJ Conner" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 18, 3:42 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:
"BJ Conner" wrote in message

oups.com...

On Apr 18, 3:17 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:
"BJ Conner" wrote in message


oups.com...


I had to check your address, I though it was going to be
"Wolfgang@t-
online@de". glad to seen Cheny hasn't exported you.


O.k., I've looked at this off and on all day long. I confess, I am
absolutely stumped.


Wolfgang


I just though your above post was kind of Connorish.


O.k., NOW I'm offended! I post what is probably the funniest AND most
helpful message this group has ever seen and this......THIS!......is the
thanks I get??!!

I am sure we all miss him,


Not for long, I think.

I just wondered if you moved to T-oline and to take over for
him or Cheney had relocated you.


I still don't get the Cheney reference.

Wolfgang
little help?


Google "CIA Renditions"
You never know when someone will disappear.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in678155.shtml


So.....um.....Cheney and the CIA like drift boats? Hey, that's
o.k.....really. I didn't mean nuthin' by it. Honest.

Wolfgang
o.k., sure, everybody else is getting this.....right? it's just me?



  #8  
Old April 18th, 2007, 11:53 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default Which trout trip to take?


On 18-Apr-2007, "Wolfgang" wrote:

.k., NOW I'm offended! I post what is probably the funniest AND most
helpful message this group has ever seen and this......THIS!......is the
thanks I get??!!

I am sure we all miss him,


Not for long, I think.

I just wondered if you moved to T-oline and to take over for
him or Cheney had relocated you.


I still don't get the Cheney reference.


Cheney?
My man
Dick Cheney!

I love him and his whole posse.
They are wonderful extraordinary human beings
Take him fishing with you.
Use him as bait!

Sincerely
Fred
  #9  
Old April 19th, 2007, 04:10 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Cyli
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Default Which trout trip to take?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:42:20 -0600, "Wolfgang"
wrote:


"BJ Conner" wrote in message
roups.com...
On Apr 18, 3:17 pm, "Wolfgang" wrote:
"BJ Conner" wrote in message

ps.com...

I had to check your address, I though it was going to be "Wolfgang@t-
online@de". glad to seen Cheny hasn't exported you.

O.k., I've looked at this off and on all day long. I confess, I am
absolutely stumped.

Wolfgang


I just though your above post was kind of Connorish.


O.k., NOW I'm offended! I post what is probably the funniest AND most
helpful message this group has ever seen and this......THIS!......is the
thanks I get??!!


While I found it amusing and, probably, helpful to the beginner, I
have seen you do funnier. Not worthy of the ...est suffix.

I am sure we all miss him,


Not for long, I think.


I remember back to the first couple of times he went away forever. I
did miss him then. But that's something like a decade ago.

I just wondered if you moved to T-oline and to take over for
him or Cheney had relocated you.


I still don't get the Cheney reference.

Wolfgang
little help?

--

r.bc: vixen
Minnow goddess, Speaker to squirrels, willow watcher.
Almost entirely harmless. Really.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
  #10  
Old April 19th, 2007, 04:40 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
JT
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Default Which trout trip to take?


"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

"Ed Wicks" wrote in message
...
Have not done fly fishing for many years. Never fished for trout. Have
a chance to take either a float trip of several miles down a river or
fish a few thousand private feet of "trophy trout" river. Any reason to
take one over the other? Both trips guided. Thanks. Ed


Fishing from a moving boat severely limits opportunities (not to mention
the physical possibility) for squatting on the bank while chewing on a
piece of grass and staring stupidly out across the water, and thus on the
likelihood of impressing anyone who might be watching (you may rest
assured that the guide WILL be watching) with your contemplative nature,
your undisturbed poise, and your willingness to read the water carefully
before plunging headlong into the raging torrent to traumatize every fish
within a hundred yards. In fishing from a moving boat, daring bits of
technical wading skill in an effort to reach just the right spot to ****
up a simple cast to a hold in which any self-respecting fish wouldn't be
caught dead (and which could have been reached from shore by a competent
caster, anyway) are out of the question. In fishing from a moving boat
which will, for the most part, remain at a more or less fixed and short
distance from shore in a particular run, there is no good reason to see
just how far you can really chuck a bug with this rig, and whether you can
actually control 90 feet of line on a long drift through conflicting
currents.....or figure out what to do in the unlikely event of a hookup.
While fishing from a moving boat, you can't pick up rocks near the bank to
see what kind of creepy-crawlies reside on their nether regions. You
can't kick bits of dry-docked driftwood back out into the current to see
what happens to them. You can't skip stones on the flat, smooth
stretches. You can't drape yourself like some boneless proto-reptilian
ancestor over a smooth and sunny boulder and wait to see whether a fish
will come to take advantage of the perfect hold next to it. You can't
build a miniature wing-dam in the hope of creating a new channel to which
you can return at some unspecified date in the distant future and catch
fish whose lives would have been entirely different had you not changed
the course of history.

In short, in a moving drift boat, there's pretty much nothing to do but
fish......which you could have done with a lot less fuss and expense at
your neighborhood bluegill pond. What's the point?

Wolfgang


Pull the boat over and anchor up. Then do all the things you mentioned
above, at several location down the river.
You will see much more river this way, much of which you could not reach by
wade fishing.
Granted, that's if you are on a floatable drainage.

My 2 pennies,
JT
I enjoys wade fishing very much, however would much rather float fish a
stretch that is floatable.


 




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