A little "what the pros use" story...

Forgot to add that the April issue of Fly Rod & Reel has this to say
about the Simms G3s:

".......This is top-of-the-line stuff - possible the best waders that
have been made to date -for anglers whose gear sees unremitting use
you know, Richard, 400 days in 4 years! and who'd rather pay top
dollar once than buy new waders every year or two."

Buy new waders every year or two? Sounds familiar. Could be because
they have been patched so many times that a new pair is necessary, or
the person is tired of getting wet and cold. Yeah, I can understand
that.

Gee, that do sound like one of dem dare endorsement thingies.

d;o)

On Fri, 11 May 2007 16:13:44 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

...but I've got news for you, Richard - you would look just as good in a
Haggar outfit as your $2000 Sevile Row...

I own no "Sevile Row" anything, but I have no doubt that anyone would
look just as good in Haggar as they would in anything from good ol'
"Sevile Row"...or Harts, Shaefer, and Marx...

Geez, you're just so unsavilized,
R
....and you really ought to quit shopping at Orvis-approved
streetcorners...I can hardly wait to hear what an investment your
Patrick Phillippi watch was. And $2000? What kinda cheap crap are you
gonna get for that...Armani or something?

On Fri, 11 May 2007 16:03:13 -0500, wrote:

And $2000? What kinda cheap crap are you
gonna get for that...Armani or something?

d;o)

On Fri, 11 May 2007 16:55:04 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

Forgot to add that the April issue of Fly Rod & Reel has this to say
about the Simms G3s:

".......This is top-of-the-line stuff - possible the best waders that
have been made to date -for anglers whose gear sees unremitting use
you know, Richard, 400 days in 4 years! and who'd rather pay top
dollar once than buy new waders every year or two."

Gee, Simms can't be too happy about that...what's the point in anyone
spending $700USD for the G4 when they can get possible better for
$400.00...and what about anglers whose gear sees remitting use?

Buy new waders every year or two? Sounds familiar. Could be because
they have been patched so many times that a new pair is necessary, or
the person is tired of getting wet and cold.

Or they read the April issue of Fly Rod & Reel and wanna be a rugged
flyfisherman, too...

Yeah, I can understand that.

Hey, I've no doubt...

Gee, that do sound like one of dem dare endorsement thingies.

And on what page is the Simms ad?

HTH,
R
....did they say anything about clumsy old stumblebums riding bicycles in
them?

Dave LaCourse wrote:
Forgot to add that the April issue of Fly Rod & Reel has this to say
about the Simms G3s:

".......This is top-of-the-line stuff - possible the best waders that
have been made to date -for anglers whose gear sees unremitting use
you know, Richard, 400 days in 4 years! and who'd rather pay top
dollar once than buy new waders every year or two."

Buy new waders every year or two? Sounds familiar. Could be because
they have been patched so many times that a new pair is necessary, or
the person is tired of getting wet and cold. Yeah, I can understand
that.

Gee, that do sound like one of dem dare endorsement thingies.

d;o)

If I spent over 100 grand a year buying advertising space in their
magazine like Simms does _Fly Rod & Reel_ would lay one of dem dare
endorsement thingies on my beer farts. "For anglers who demand the
very best, possibly the best beer farts ever cut." LOL !!

That's not to say they aren't good waders, (or beer farts ;-), just
that an "endorsement" from a fly fishing rag ain't worth the paper
it's written on.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Fri, 11 May 2007 16:03:13 -0500, wrote:

I own no "Sevile Row" anything, but I have no doubt that anyone would
look just as good in Haggar as they would in anything from good ol'
"Sevile Row".

Oh, golly, excuse me, I left off an l. Seville Row? Is that better.
Do they really make 46 portlies at the tailors on Seville Row? They
must, otherwise you wouldn't shop there. Don't wear double breasted,
Richard. It'll make you look *twice* as big as you are. d;o(

And yeah, this is still fun.

d;o)

On Fri, 11 May 2007 16:26:25 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Dave LaCourse wrote:
Forgot to add that the April issue of Fly Rod & Reel has this to say
about the Simms G3s:

".......This is top-of-the-line stuff - possible the best waders that
have been made to date -for anglers whose gear sees unremitting use
you know, Richard, 400 days in 4 years! and who'd rather pay top
dollar once than buy new waders every year or two."

Buy new waders every year or two? Sounds familiar. Could be because
they have been patched so many times that a new pair is necessary, or
the person is tired of getting wet and cold. Yeah, I can understand
that.

Gee, that do sound like one of dem dare endorsement thingies.

d;o)

If I spent over 100 grand a year buying advertising space in their
magazine like Simms does _Fly Rod & Reel_ would lay one of dem dare
endorsement thingies on my beer farts. "For anglers who demand the
very best, possibly the best beer farts ever cut." LOL !!

That's not to say they aren't good waders, (or beer farts ;-), just
that an "endorsement" from a fly fishing rag ain't worth the paper
it's written on.

You're just jealous because Bud farts don't smell as good as Sleman
farts.

They gave Cabela's, Patagonia, and William Joseph good reviews and
they all advertise in the magazine (full page). However, there is NO
Simms ad. One other wader manufacturer, Rivendell, advertises but
didn't get a write-up. They are supposed to have "new for 2007 -
zippered breathable waders."

However, the latest issue has a full page ad by Simms, but so does
Reddington and they didn't review Reddington's waders. Hodgman has a
1/3 page ad with no review. Hmm.

They do have an ad by Winston which I consider the best rod on the
market. New thread material. What is the best off-the-shelf fly rod?
And I bet it's not made on Seville Row, or Sevile Row for that matter.
Just checked - there *is* a Sevile Row. Imagine that?

d;o)

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
If it's true, that is. Hafta ask Wally about that one.

Oh what the hell; I'll relate my own short tale as a "company man". Not for
my fishing prowess, of course; but I used to be a not half bad sailboat
racer. I was no America's Cup level guy, but my local success was such that
at least a couple of sail lofts were willing to give me a decent price break
to get their sails on my boat. One loft offered me sails at cost (a
substantial discount considering my income at the time). I accepted, they
cut me a new genoa, and off I went. In short, the sail sucked. It seemed
as though I was sailing backwards whenever I put it up. I'd lose a couple
of places to the fleet on a single leg. I hated losing more than I hated
spending money. After two weeks, I put that sail in a bag and never took it
out again. Never even paid for it (Hell, I don't even think I spoke to him
again.). Went with a different loft. Won the championship.

Moral of the story - if your livelihood depends on success, it don't matter
if you get **** for free; it still has to do what it's supposed to do.

Joe F.

Dave LaCourse wrote in
:

If it's true, that is. Hafta ask Wally about that one.

I know plenty of guides, and held the price sheet from Simms in my own hot
little hands about two years ago. I'm not sure if it was 40% or 50%, but
it was one of those. So far as I know, just about every major manufacturer
in the industry, rods, reels, waders, etc., offers substantial discounts to
guides, as each guide is essentially a walking advertisement.

In fact, the guy who showed me the price list was trying to talk me into
getting a NY guiding license, and pulled out a stack of price lists to make
his argument more compelling.

--
Scott
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On Fri, 11 May 2007 22:21:13 GMT, "rb608"
wrote:

Moral of the story - if your livelihood depends on success, it don't matter
if you get **** for free; it still has to do what it's supposed to do.

Amen. Great story, Joe.