A little "what the pros use" story...

On 11 May 2007 22:25:03 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

I know plenty of guides, and held the price sheet from Simms in my own hot
little hands about two years ago. I'm not sure if it was 40% or 50%, but
it was one of those. So far as I know, just about every major manufacturer
in the industry, rods, reels, waders, etc., offers substantial discounts to
guides, as each guide is essentially a walking advertisement.

In fact, the guy who showed me the price list was trying to talk me into
getting a NY guiding license, and pulled out a stack of price lists to make
his argument more compelling.

That may be true for NY, Scott, but as Joe has said, it doesn't really
matter. It is WHAT you get that counts. If Simms does it, I'm
betting that Patagonia, Dan Baily, LLBean, et al do it, and I know
Orvis does it, yet most of the guides I see are using G3s, including
the guides at Orvis lodges. Why? Because the things are so damn
good. Pay 400 bucks for more than 400 days of use. Such a deal.

Dave LaCourse wrote in
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On 11 May 2007 22:25:03 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

I know plenty of guides, and held the price sheet from Simms in my own
hot little hands about two years ago. I'm not sure if it was 40% or
50%, but it was one of those. So far as I know, just about every
major manufacturer in the industry, rods, reels, waders, etc., offers
substantial discounts to guides, as each guide is essentially a
walking advertisement.

In fact, the guy who showed me the price list was trying to talk me
into getting a NY guiding license, and pulled out a stack of price
lists to make his argument more compelling.

That may be true for NY, Scott, but as Joe has said, it doesn't really
matter. It is WHAT you get that counts. If Simms does it, I'm
betting that Patagonia, Dan Baily, LLBean, et al do it, and I know
Orvis does it, yet most of the guides I see are using G3s, including
the guides at Orvis lodges. Why? Because the things are so damn
good. Pay 400 bucks for more than 400 days of use. Such a deal.




I'm not disagreeing, Dave, but you seemed rather impressed that the
guides were paying $200 more for the Simms waders rather than buying
heavily discounted Orvis waders. The price difference for the guides
really isn't that big. Yeah, Simms does make really good waders, and to
many folks, the extra money is money well spent.

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Scott
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I own no "Sevile Row" anything, but I have no doubt that anyone would
look just as good in Haggar as they would in anything from good ol'
"Sevile Row"...or Harts, Shaefer, and Marx...

Don't knock HS&M. That stuff looks good and lasts forever.
Frank Reid
(oopsy, think I just started another one)

That's not to say they aren't good waders, (or beer farts ;-), just
that an "endorsement" from a fly fishing rag ain't worth the paper
it's written on.

Okay, how 'bout this one. I wear Dan Baileys with the lifetime
warrantee. I've been told I'm tough on gear (blew out two sets of new
waders within 3 days of each other). Ended up with the Baileys and
haven't looked back. Comfortable, they wear well, and they've yet to
leak on me.
Frank Reid

Flytyer37 wrote:
That's not to say they aren't good waders, (or beer farts ;-), just
that an "endorsement" from a fly fishing rag ain't worth the paper
it's written on.

Okay, how 'bout this one. I wear Dan Baileys with the lifetime
warrantee. I've been told I'm tough on gear (blew out two sets of new
waders within 3 days of each other). Ended up with the Baileys and
haven't looked back. Comfortable, they wear well, and they've yet to
leak on me.

Yep, now *that's* an endorsement I trust. And endorsements like that
are one of the best reasons to hang around this place.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On 11 May 2007 16:03:34 -0700, Flytyer37 wrote:

That's not to say they aren't good waders, (or beer farts ;-), just
that an "endorsement" from a fly fishing rag ain't worth the paper
it's written on.

Okay, how 'bout this one. I wear Dan Baileys with the lifetime
warrantee. I've been told I'm tough on gear (blew out two sets of new
waders within 3 days of each other). Ended up with the Baileys and
haven't looked back. Comfortable, they wear well, and they've yet to
leak on me.
Frank Reid
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And the Baileys get a good write-up in the mag, *without* any ads.

On Fri, 11 May 2007 18:09:40 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Flytyer37 wrote:
That's not to say they aren't good waders, (or beer farts ;-), just
that an "endorsement" from a fly fishing rag ain't worth the paper
it's written on.

Okay, how 'bout this one. I wear Dan Baileys with the lifetime
warrantee. I've been told I'm tough on gear (blew out two sets of new
waders within 3 days of each other). Ended up with the Baileys and
haven't looked back. Comfortable, they wear well, and they've yet to
leak on me.

Yep, now *that's* an endorsement I trust. And endorsements like that
are one of the best reasons to hang around this place.

Well hell, and **** you very much. What is my endorsement? Chopped
liver? Harumph.

"Flytyer37" wrote in message
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Okay, how 'bout this one. I wear Dan Baileys with the lifetime
warrantee. I've been told I'm tough on gear (blew out two sets of new
waders within 3 days of each other). Ended up with the Baileys and
haven't looked back. Comfortable, they wear well, and they've yet to
leak on me.
Frank Reid


You, my man, ARE tough on waders.....I will vouch for you. IIRC, your
Bailey's cost a wee bit less than $400, let alone $700. The cost of the
Simms are ludicrous, and I don't care how tough they are, unless perhaps
bulletproof.
I, proud owner of the same pair of Orvis lightweights for 8 years, and
another no-name brand of breathables for like the past 6 years, figure that
14 years of pretty solid fishing time, for less than $200, left me a lot of
money for other things. As Rick is fond of saying, YMMV.
Tom

"Tom Littleton" wrote in news:qb71i.882$He1.35
@trndny04:

The cost of the
Simms are ludicrous, and I don't care how tough they are, unless perhaps
bulletproof.



Simms has some lower end waders, somewhat above their lowest end, that ring
in at about $200


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Scott
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Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2007 18:09:40 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Flytyer37 wrote:
That's not to say they aren't good waders, (or beer farts ;-), just
that an "endorsement" from a fly fishing rag ain't worth the paper
it's written on.
Okay, how 'bout this one. I wear Dan Baileys with the lifetime
warrantee. I've been told I'm tough on gear (blew out two sets of new
waders within 3 days of each other). Ended up with the Baileys and
haven't looked back. Comfortable, they wear well, and they've yet to
leak on me.
Yep, now *that's* an endorsement I trust. And endorsements like that
are one of the best reasons to hang around this place.

Well hell, and **** you very much. What is my endorsement? Chopped
liver? Harumph.

Geez, calm down Louie. I didn't say your endorsement of Simm's was any
less trustworthy than Frank's endorsement of Bailey's, just that I don't
trust the fly fishing rags.

There was a time however when you had Orvis everywhere and I would have
been somewhat skeptical of an Orvis endorsement. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry