New Sage reel problem.

On Aug 14, 9:46 pm, wrote:
On Aug 12, 10:22 pm, Mike wrote:

PS, if you fish in "muddy" streams, or get mud on the line etc, some
of the deposits left on the reel when it dries can also look like
rust.

--
Regards and tight lines!

Mike Connor

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en

No it's rust. Shop won't take it back say it is a Sage problem. Trying
to get a hold of Sage but having trouble actually talking to anyone so
I sent an email. We'll see. Worst case here can I regrease it and hope
it holds?. It's working fine now but that could change.
Thanks for the replies.
Brian

It won´t break immediately, especially if you keep it cleaned and
greased, but a new reel that goes rusty is just bad news. Once things
start rusting, they tend to continue, and once there are pits on the
gears, you will have problems. I can´t really figure out why any
manufacturer would use materials that might rust, even in a "cheap"
reel.

As far as I am aware, the shop is bound to take it back if it is
defective. The seller is responsible that goods he sells are fit for
their intended purpose, and a reel that rusts most patently is not!

I am not au fait with the exact merchandising laws in America, but
that is the case here. Before you waste time, money and effort running
after Sage, go to your local chamber of commerce, and explain the
problem. They will usually persuade the dealer to take it back, and
refund your money.

The reel is not listed on the Sage site,
http://www.sageflyfish.com/default.asp?p=58

Furthermore, if the dealer tells you it is a "Sage problem" he is
merely trying to get out of his responsibilities. If he means that it
is a known problem, he could also be liable for knowingly selling
defective and unsuitable goods.

Lastly some "cheap" equipment is not really a good idea. If it sounds
too good to be true, then it usually is! There are plenty of
reasonably priced reliable reels from reputable dealers, and you would
be well advised to go that route, once you solve your problem.

Walt Winter, who subscribes here is a reliable source, and often
highly recommended;

http://wilsoncreekoutfitters.com/

These things can be difficult to resolve. But there is no point
hanging on to a defective reel.

--
Regards and tight lines!

Mike Connor

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:02:41 -0700, Mike
wrote:

On Aug 14, 9:46 pm, wrote:
On Aug 12, 10:22 pm, Mike wrote:

PS, if you fish in "muddy" streams, or get mud on the line etc, some
of the deposits left on the reel when it dries can also look like
rust.

--
Regards and tight lines!

Mike Connor

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Flycorner?hl=en

No it's rust. Shop won't take it back say it is a Sage problem. Trying
to get a hold of Sage but having trouble actually talking to anyone so
I sent an email. We'll see. Worst case here can I regrease it and hope
it holds?. It's working fine now but that could change.
Thanks for the replies.
Brian

It won´t break immediately, especially if you keep it cleaned and
greased, but a new reel that goes rusty is just bad news. Once things
start rusting, they tend to continue, and once there are pits on the
gears, you will have problems. I can´t really figure out why any
manufacturer would use materials that might rust, even in a "cheap"
reel.

As far as I am aware, the shop is bound to take it back if it is
defective. The seller is responsible that goods he sells are fit for
their intended purpose, and a reel that rusts most patently is not!

I am not au fait with the exact merchandising laws in America, but
that is the case here. Before you waste time, money and effort running
after Sage, go to your local chamber of commerce, and explain the
problem. They will usually persuade the dealer to take it back, and
refund your money.

The reel is not listed on the Sage site,
http://www.sageflyfish.com/default.asp?p=58

Furthermore, if the dealer tells you it is a "Sage problem" he is
merely trying to get out of his responsibilities. If he means that it
is a known problem, he could also be liable for knowingly selling
defective and unsuitable goods.

Lastly some "cheap" equipment is not really a good idea. If it sounds
too good to be true, then it usually is! There are plenty of
reasonably priced reliable reels from reputable dealers, and you would
be well advised to go that route, once you solve your problem.

Walt Winter, who subscribes here is a reliable source, and often
highly recommended;

http://wilsoncreekoutfitters.com/

These things can be difficult to resolve. But there is no point
hanging on to a defective reel.

And if those layabouts at the Chamber don't immediately go tar and
feather that crooked sumbitch reel huckster, call Fulbright and Jaworski
at 1 212 318 30...um, look it up...and don't settle for any associates
or other nonsense. Tell them you want a partner in the "Rusty Reels"
section. Also, call the local police, the sheriff, and the FBI. Don't
take no for an answer - stand your ground! You know your rights! Tell
'em Mike Connor told you that you was robbed! Then go back to the
dealer and beat him senseless with a sock full of moldy sauerkraut -
that'll teach that sorry, evil spawn of the goddamned devil himself!

If you get no satisfaction, go buy a 3-axis CNC, and build a replacement
part out of a billet of titanium, and see if someone like
Northrop-Grumman or the like can put some badass supersecret military
coating on the whole thing, just to make sure.

....or maybe just another day or two and see if Sage responds...eh,
either route...

HTH,
R