Furled Leaders Revisited

"Larry L" wrote in message
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"Conan The Librarian" wrote


Ah, but by using your tippet rings, you'd only have to buy a couple a
year, whatever the brand. :-)




True, but one of the things life has taught me it that the "couple a year"
are far MORE likely to be needed when far from sources of less common
brands ... fwiw, I too like the Maxima tapered a lot, but, I only know of
one store ( 993 miles from where I sit to type this ) that stocks them and
I don't trust stockpiling nylon for a tangly day ..


I'm sorry you guys lost me, what are these tippet rings?
-tom

On 31 Aug, 17:21, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:

I'm sorry you guys lost me, what are these tippet rings?
-tom

May be of interest;

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-on...s/leaders.html

TL
MC

"Mike" wrote in message
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On 31 Aug, 17:21, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:

I'm sorry you guys lost me, what are these tippet rings?
-tom

May be of interest;

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-on...s/leaders.html

TL
MC

thanks Mike,
good explanation site.

tippet rings add weight to the leader, i dont care how small they
are...I tie all my own for my store and another one here in pa..I have
never had a problem with the furled leaders I make..They even
float(mono) by adding a floatant or line dressing..as for turning over
big flies we have been using them for everting from smallies to salt
water fish..maybe its the proportions in your formulas..


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sandfly wrote:

tippet rings add weight to the leader, i dont care how small they
are...I tie all my own for my store and another one here in pa..I have
never had a problem with the furled leaders I make..They even
float(mono) by adding a floatant or line dressing..as for turning over
big flies we have been using them for everting from smallies to salt
water fish..maybe its the proportions in your formulas..

It's not clear who you are addressing with this response. (Quoting
some of the text is useful.)

To respond to your comments: Tippet rings add some weight, but it's
nominal, and any leader that floats poperly will float a
(proportionately-sized) tippet ring. Mono furled leaders can be made to
float (though not as well as thread, IME), but they still have some of
the same characteristics that a regular mono leader does. The reason I
sometimes choose (thread) furled leaders is because they are supple, and
lay out smoothly and don't coil on the water like mono leaders. I have
made them from 3/0 thread, and I know they'll turn over big flies, but
IMHO that's not their best selling point.

Again, I'm not sure who your response was intended for. Some of us
do like furled leaders, even though we don't presume they are the best
solution for all fishing.


Chuck Vance

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
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sandfly wrote:

tippet rings add weight to the leader, i dont care how small they
are...I tie all my own for my store and another one here in pa..I have
never had a problem with the furled leaders I make..They even
float(mono) by adding a floatant or line dressing..as for turning over
big flies we have been using them for everting from smallies to salt
water fish..maybe its the proportions in your formulas..

It's not clear who you are addressing with this response. (Quoting
some of the text is useful.)

To respond to your comments: Tippet rings add some weight, but it's
nominal, and any leader that floats poperly will float a
(proportionately-sized) tippet ring. Mono furled leaders can be made to
float (though not as well as thread, IME), but they still have some of the
same characteristics that a regular mono leader does. The reason I
sometimes choose (thread) furled leaders is because they are supple, and
lay out smoothly and don't coil on the water like mono leaders. I have
made them from 3/0 thread, and I know they'll turn over big flies, but
IMHO that's not their best selling point.

Again, I'm not sure who your response was intended for. Some of us do
like furled leaders, even though we don't presume they are the best
solution for all fishing.
Chuck Vance


Chuck,
I did order the rings, and received them yesterday, just had to try them.
They are great! About the weight, they are very light and so tiny that the
leader and tippet material would keep the tiny ring afloat. The other
thing I like about the ring is you don't lose any length off your leader
once
you've tied onto the ring, just add tippet.

No hinge when casting, and cast as if the connection wasn't there. Great
turnover and presentation. I used a 9' 5x leader and 14" 6x tippet.

The safety pin is a great idea to house the rings. It did take me some time
to make my knots to the ring. I would tie them to the tippet before going
out into the field.
-tom

On 5 Sep, 16:11, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:

The safety pin is a great idea to house the rings. It did take me some time
to make my knots to the ring. I would tie them to the tippet before going
out into the field.
-tom

It seems some people don´t like them, but most who have used them
never go back to ordinary line knots. They are just so much more
convenient and useful. Save you money on leaders as well. Not to
mention time and effort on the water.

TL
MC

Tom Nakashima wrote:
thanks Mike,
good explanation site.

I'm confused. Do you mean Mike is a real person
and he actually has something valuable to say?
I thought.......
Well. I'll be damned.

easymoney wrote in
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I'm confused. Do you mean Mike is a real person
and he actually has something valuable to say?
I thought.......
Well. I'll be damned.



There you go, starting up a ****ing match that most would prefer didn't
start, even Mike.

Let me be the first to call you dumb****.

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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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easymoney wrote in
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I'm confused. Do you mean Mike is a real person
and he actually has something valuable to say?
I thought.......
Well. I'll be damned.



There you go, starting up a ****ing match that most would prefer didn't
start, even Mike.

Let me be the first to call you dumb****.

Second.

Wolfgang