Looking for a slower 5wt.

Wayne Knight wrote:
wrote:
I'm looking for a medium/slow 5wt. Have a 2pc 8' 6" St. Croix Premier
now and it doesn't fit my casting style that well always feel rushed.
I'm going to check some out and wanted to get some suggestions on what
to look for. I don't have that big of a budget ($200 or less) but
figured I could save some time if I tried rods that fit into the
slower side of action. I have cast a superfine and that was perfect
for me more relaxed, but those seem hard to find and the "trout bum"
series is out of my range. Any help appreciated,

I would never fish one of these personally but the Cabela's Three Forks rods
or the Temple Fork Finese series of rods are well within your price range
and offer slower action and some folks seem to like them. Personally I would
either try to stick a few more pennies away or look to the used market for
the older whorvis rods, sage LL or sp series or the Winston IM6. Sage has
just dropped another rod series and the SLT series will be discounted but
not down to $200.

I agree with Wayne but you're not going to find a vintage Sage LL
in your price range. Last I looked on eBay they were going for close
to $500. In addition to the Cabela's and the TFO in the lower price
range you'll want to try the Echo Classic from Tim Rajeff's Echo line:

http://www.echoflyfishing.com/echo_small.php

I've tried this one in the 5wt and it's a decent rod for $140. It's
not a great rod by any means, but for $140 it's decent.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:42:27 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Wayne Knight wrote:
wrote:
I'm looking for a medium/slow 5wt. Have a 2pc 8' 6" St. Croix Premier
now and it doesn't fit my casting style that well always feel rushed.
I'm going to check some out and wanted to get some suggestions on what
to look for. I don't have that big of a budget ($200 or less) but
figured I could save some time if I tried rods that fit into the
slower side of action. I have cast a superfine and that was perfect
for me more relaxed, but those seem hard to find and the "trout bum"
series is out of my range. Any help appreciated,

I would never fish one of these personally but the Cabela's Three Forks rods
or the Temple Fork Finese series of rods are well within your price range
and offer slower action and some folks seem to like them. Personally I would
either try to stick a few more pennies away or look to the used market for
the older whorvis rods, sage LL or sp series or the Winston IM6. Sage has
just dropped another rod series and the SLT series will be discounted but
not down to $200.

I agree with Wayne but you're not going to find a vintage Sage LL
in your price range. Last I looked on eBay they were going for close
to $500. In addition to the Cabela's and the TFO in the lower price
range you'll want to try the Echo Classic from Tim Rajeff's Echo line:

http://www.echoflyfishing.com/echo_small.php

I've tried this one in the 5wt and it's a decent rod for $140. It's
not a great rod by any means, but for $140 it's decent.


For shame, for shame! Neither of you suggested an old fishable 'boo or
'glass. Heck, any number of decent old rods could be had for under
$200USD.

TC,
R

wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:42:27 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:


Wayne Knight wrote:

wrote:

I'm looking for a medium/slow 5wt. Have a 2pc 8' 6" St. Croix Premier
now and it doesn't fit my casting style that well always feel rushed.
I'm going to check some out and wanted to get some suggestions on what
to look for. I don't have that big of a budget ($200 or less) but
figured I could save some time if I tried rods that fit into the
slower side of action. I have cast a superfine and that was perfect
for me more relaxed, but those seem hard to find and the "trout bum"
series is out of my range. Any help appreciated,

I would never fish one of these personally but the Cabela's Three Forks rods
or the Temple Fork Finese series of rods are well within your price range
and offer slower action and some folks seem to like them. Personally I would
either try to stick a few more pennies away or look to the used market for
the older whorvis rods, sage LL or sp series or the Winston IM6. Sage has
just dropped another rod series and the SLT series will be discounted but
not down to $200.

I agree with Wayne but you're not going to find a vintage Sage LL
in your price range. Last I looked on eBay they were going for close
to $500. In addition to the Cabela's and the TFO in the lower price
range you'll want to try the Echo Classic from Tim Rajeff's Echo line:

http://www.echoflyfishing.com/echo_small.php

I've tried this one in the 5wt and it's a decent rod for $140. It's
not a great rod by any means, but for $140 it's decent.



For shame, for shame! Neither of you suggested an old fishable 'boo or
'glass. Heck, any number of decent old rods could be had for under
$200USD.

TC,
R

the old loomis gl3 was a soft rod and around 200 bucks as i recall. i
had one i liked a lot, but it took flight from the roof of my car one
night after a late evening of fishing the blue ridge with wally and an
old fella from chicago named joel... vodka was an accomplice as i recall.

On Sep 4, 8:34?pm, jeff wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:42:27 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Wayne Knight wrote:

wrote:

I'm looking for a medium/slow 5wt. Have a 2pc 8' 6" St. Croix Premier
now and it doesn't fit my casting style that well always feel rushed.
I'm going to check some out and wanted to get some suggestions on what
to look for. I don't have that big of a budget ($200 or less) but
figured I could save some time if I tried rods that fit into the
slower side of action. I have cast a superfine and that was perfect
for me more relaxed, but those seem hard to find and the "trout bum"
series is out of my range. Any help appreciated,

I would never fish one of these personally but the Cabela's Three Forks rods
or the Temple Fork Finese series of rods are well within your price range
and offer slower action and some folks seem to like them. Personally I would
either try to stick a few more pennies away or look to the used market for
the older whorvis rods, sage LL or sp series or the Winston IM6. Sage has
just dropped another rod series and the SLT series will be discounted but
not down to $200.

I agree with Wayne but you're not going to find a vintage Sage LL
in your price range. Last I looked on eBay they were going for close
to $500. In addition to the Cabela's and the TFO in the lower price
range you'll want to try the Echo Classic from Tim Rajeff's Echo line:

http://www.echoflyfishing.com/echo_small.php

I've tried this one in the 5wt and it's a decent rod for $140. It's
not a great rod by any means, but for $140 it's decent.

For shame, for shame! Neither of you suggested an old fishable 'boo or
'glass. Heck, any number of decent old rods could be had for under
$200USD.

TC,
R

the old loomis gl3 was a soft rod and around 200 bucks as i recall. i
had one i liked a lot, but it took flight from the roof of my car one
night after a late evening of fishing the blue ridge with wally and an
old fella from chicago named joel... vodka was an accomplice as i recall.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Olg fella?
Itr wes gin!
Joel

On Sep 4, 8:34?pm, jeff wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:42:27 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Wayne Knight wrote:

wrote:

I'm looking for a medium/slow 5wt. Have a 2pc 8' 6" St. Croix Premier
now and it doesn't fit my casting style that well always feel rushed.
I'm going to check some out and wanted to get some suggestions on what
to look for. I don't have that big of a budget ($200 or less) but
figured I could save some time if I tried rods that fit into the
slower side of action. I have cast a superfine and that was perfect
for me more relaxed, but those seem hard to find and the "trout bum"
series is out of my range. Any help appreciated,

I would never fish one of these personally but the Cabela's Three Forks rods
or the Temple Fork Finese series of rods are well within your price range
and offer slower action and some folks seem to like them. Personally I would
either try to stick a few more pennies away or look to the used market for
the older whorvis rods, sage LL or sp series or the Winston IM6. Sage has
just dropped another rod series and the SLT series will be discounted but
not down to $200.

I agree with Wayne but you're not going to find a vintage Sage LL
in your price range. Last I looked on eBay they were going for close
to $500. In addition to the Cabela's and the TFO in the lower price
range you'll want to try the Echo Classic from Tim Rajeff's Echo line:

http://www.echoflyfishing.com/echo_small.php

I've tried this one in the 5wt and it's a decent rod for $140. It's
not a great rod by any means, but for $140 it's decent.

For shame, for shame! Neither of you suggested an old fishable 'boo or
'glass. Heck, any number of decent old rods could be had for under
$200USD.

TC,
R

the old loomis gl3 was a soft rod and around 200 bucks as i recall. i
had one i liked a lot, but it took flight from the roof of my car one
night after a late evening of fishing the blue ridge with wally and an
old fella from chicago named joel... vodka was an accomplice as i recall.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"Old fella?"
It was gin!
Joel

Joel *DFD* wrote:

the old loomis gl3 was a soft rod and around 200 bucks as i recall. i
had one i liked a lot, but it took flight from the roof of my car one
night after a late evening of fishing the blue ridge with wally and an
old fella from chicago named joel... vodka was an accomplice as i recall.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


"Old fella?"
It was gin!
Joel


there you are! i've missed you. what's been happening with you?
getting out of the city with big shoulders?

jeff

On Sep 5, 9:28?pm, jeff wrote:
Joel *DFD* wrote:

the old loomis gl3 was a soft rod and around 200 bucks as i recall. i
had one i liked a lot, but it took flight from the roof of my car one
night after a late evening of fishing the blue ridge with wally and an
old fella from chicago named joel... vodka was an accomplice as i recall.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"Old fella?"
It was gin!
Joel

there you are! i've missed you. what's been happening with you?
getting out of the city with big shoulders?

jeff

Just got back from Wyoming. Fished 5 days with Dave PA. We had a
great time.
Very fine trip. Caught some beautiful big trout. Dave slayed them on
the Madison
River. I couldn't even make a TR because it's so unbelievable.
Fished the Wisconsin river with Wolf and George Clevland about 6 or 7
weeks
ago. Wasn't as good as it was when you were there. On Sunday, before
I returned home, George and I fished the Praire River for those
beautiful Brookies just like you get in North Carolina. We caught
lots.
Still feeling pretty good for an "old fella" of 70 years and still
enjoying a good Martini..
Maybe you'll make the Penns Clave next spring. I'm planning on being
there.
Hope to see you then.
Joel

Joel *DFD* wrote:
On Sep 5, 9:28?pm, jeff wrote:

Joel *DFD* wrote:


the old loomis gl3 was a soft rod and around 200 bucks as i recall. i
had one i liked a lot, but it took flight from the roof of my car one
night after a late evening of fishing the blue ridge with wally and an
old fella from chicago named joel... vodka was an accomplice as i recall.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"Old fella?"
It was gin!
Joel

there you are! i've missed you. what's been happening with you?
getting out of the city with big shoulders?

jeff


Just got back from Wyoming. Fished 5 days with Dave PA. We had a
great time.
Very fine trip. Caught some beautiful big trout. Dave slayed them on
the Madison
River. I couldn't even make a TR because it's so unbelievable.
Fished the Wisconsin river with Wolf and George Clevland about 6 or 7
weeks
ago. Wasn't as good as it was when you were there. On Sunday, before
I returned home, George and I fished the Praire River for those
beautiful Brookies just like you get in North Carolina. We caught
lots.
Still feeling pretty good for an "old fella" of 70 years and still
enjoying a good Martini..
Maybe you'll make the Penns Clave next spring. I'm planning on being
there.
Hope to see you then.
Joel


i trust you know the "old fella" was intended as humorous... albeit
true. g we all can only hope to reach age 70 and beyond with the same
vigor, humor, and intelligence as you (and my friend indian joe). did
y'all stay in the park? which section of the madison did you fish?

seeing you again is reason enough to visit the bug factory of penns.
perhaps you'd be interested in some sal****er foolishness or another nc
mountain trout adventure and head down this way sometime?

jeff

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For shame, for shame! Neither of you suggested an old fishable 'boo or
'glass. Heck, any number of decent old rods could be had for under
$200USD.

Look, I have live with the fact that I essentially told the guy to look at a
KPOS or Lefty's break away retirement fund "stick" and compound it with that
post will be on some usenet server long after I'm gone. The guy is new at
this and without a mentor or a stash of alternative sticks and should stay
with what he's comfortable with.

On Sep 4, 8:47 pm, "Wayne Knight" wrote:
wrote in message

...

For shame, for shame! Neither of you suggested an old fishable 'boo or
'glass. Heck, any number of decent old rods could be had for under
$200USD.

Look, I have live with the fact that I essentially told the guy to look at a
KPOS or Lefty's break away retirement fund "stick" and compound it with that
post will be on some usenet server long after I'm gone. The guy is new at
this and without a mentor or a stash of alternative sticks and should stay
with what he's comfortable with.

Thanks for all the replies. I will try overlining and maybe saving up
a few more pennies or trying out some of the suggestions. I bought the
premier on a whim and I can fish with it, have caught some nice fish
with it. But it's not comfortable feels like I'm running down a hill
and alot of concentration ocassionally goes into the timing and my
accuracy suffers a bit. One thing that has suprised me is that I
bought a double taper 5 floating line the other day and I absolutely
cannot cast it well. Wide loops very slow line speeds. I heard that a
double taper will expose some casting flaws and...well I've got some.
THere feels to be no load regarless of arialized line the front taper
is long on it, it's one of those factory overruns and I bought it just
to try it out. Maybe it's rated wrong. I can cast a wf 5wt 40-45feet
tight loops on a good day(but rarely need to)..with this stuff you can
drive your car through my loops.
When I casted with a slower rod I felt like I had more control over
what was happening and it wasn't a reaction thing, like "uh oh gotta
move it foward now!!" this was more like "look at that beautiful line
unrolling behind me... let me light a cigarette then we'll move it
foward"..and it just felt more comfortable...could me my inexperience
or it could be my style....
Thanks for the tips,
Brian