Looking for a slower 5wt.

On 5 Sep, 05:24, wrote:
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Buying more or other equipment is definitely not the solution to your
stated problems.

If you can only produce wide loops with a medium to fast rod,
( regardless of the line ) your stroke is wrong. Using a softer rod
will only make this tendency worse.

TL
MC

No I'm sorry maybe I wasn't clear, I throw tight loops w/med fast or a
slower rod.Just don' t like the pace of the faster rods. I only had
the wide loops with this facory overrun double taper line. But never a
problem with the loops. I'm kinda all by myself with alot of this not
alot of flyfishers around. I practice casting about 45 minutes a day
out on the grass and have become proficent. I just don't like the feel
of a faster rod. I feel more comfortable with a relaxed stroke. I
don't want to shoot the fly line through a brick wall. I took a lesson
with a guy named Dick Fujita and watching him cast was a lesson in
efiiciency and grace. Regardless I just prefer a slower rod. Sorry
about the confusion.
Brian

My apologies, difficult to diagnose things from text.

If that is the case, then just overline it to suit the action you
require. The DT is probably way off specification. Maybe even wrongly
labelled. Sounds like it may be a #4 weight labelled as a #5.

Doesn´t hurt to review one´s casting regularly anyway. The most
benefit is achieved if a good instructor analyses it, but self
analysis also works, although more slowly, and is harder to observe. I
try to cast with a good pro at least two or three times a year. Small
faults are always creeping in.

TL
MC

On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:37:35 -0400, "Wayne Knight"
wrote:


"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
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Personally I would either try to stick a few more pennies away or look to
the used market for the older whorvis rods

Speaking of which there are two orvis mid flex five weight rods with buy it
now price of 109.99 and 129.99 on ebay.

Yep, there are a lot of Orvis Clearwaters on sale right now. If you
liked the Superfines, you'd probably be happy with the mid flex
Clearwaters. A little faster, but not much.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Orvis-Clearwater...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Orvis-Clearwater...QQcmdZViewItem

And don't knock yourself out over not being able to afford the new
Trout Bum rods. I've got a couple of friends who are Superfine
affectionadoes and they both feel the redesigned Superfine Trout Bum
rods suck.


g.c.

Wayne Knight typed:
"Tim J." wrote in message
. ..

Holy Mother of God! Everyone take cover - the world is coming to an
end!

F*** You Timmay.

Well, that aside, I really like my Orvis Superfine rod. They changed the
recipe a few years ago (and raised the price), though, and I have no
idea how the newer ones act. Also, I still break out the KPOS 3wt from
time to time just to remember how much I like it.
--
TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj/

Wayne Knight wrote:

Look, I have live with the fact that I essentially told the guy to look at a
KPOS or Lefty's break away retirement fund "stick" and compound it with that
post will be on some usenet server long after I'm gone.

Not to pile on or anything, but that was a great suggestion on your
part, Wayne. I think the TFO Finesse is a super choice. Heck, if we
meet up next year in the GSMNP, I'll even loan you my 4-wt. so you can
get a chance to see what a nice rod it is for yourself.

I could also bring along a 5-wt. Clearwater I have stashed away in a
closet somewhere, if you'd like to try that one.


Chuck Vance (and I could take pictures of you casting both of
them ... and post the links here ... just for posterity's sake ... )

On Sep 4, 8:34?pm, jeff wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:42:27 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Wayne Knight wrote:

wrote:

I'm looking for a medium/slow 5wt. Have a 2pc 8' 6" St. Croix Premier
now and it doesn't fit my casting style that well always feel rushed.
I'm going to check some out and wanted to get some suggestions on what
to look for. I don't have that big of a budget ($200 or less) but
figured I could save some time if I tried rods that fit into the
slower side of action. I have cast a superfine and that was perfect
for me more relaxed, but those seem hard to find and the "trout bum"
series is out of my range. Any help appreciated,

I would never fish one of these personally but the Cabela's Three Forks rods
or the Temple Fork Finese series of rods are well within your price range
and offer slower action and some folks seem to like them. Personally I would
either try to stick a few more pennies away or look to the used market for
the older whorvis rods, sage LL or sp series or the Winston IM6. Sage has
just dropped another rod series and the SLT series will be discounted but
not down to $200.

I agree with Wayne but you're not going to find a vintage Sage LL
in your price range. Last I looked on eBay they were going for close
to $500. In addition to the Cabela's and the TFO in the lower price
range you'll want to try the Echo Classic from Tim Rajeff's Echo line:

http://www.echoflyfishing.com/echo_small.php

I've tried this one in the 5wt and it's a decent rod for $140. It's
not a great rod by any means, but for $140 it's decent.

For shame, for shame! Neither of you suggested an old fishable 'boo or
'glass. Heck, any number of decent old rods could be had for under
$200USD.

TC,
R

the old loomis gl3 was a soft rod and around 200 bucks as i recall. i
had one i liked a lot, but it took flight from the roof of my car one
night after a late evening of fishing the blue ridge with wally and an
old fella from chicago named joel... vodka was an accomplice as i recall.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Olg fella?
Itr wes gin!
Joel

On Sep 4, 8:34?pm, jeff wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:42:27 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Wayne Knight wrote:

wrote:

I'm looking for a medium/slow 5wt. Have a 2pc 8' 6" St. Croix Premier
now and it doesn't fit my casting style that well always feel rushed.
I'm going to check some out and wanted to get some suggestions on what
to look for. I don't have that big of a budget ($200 or less) but
figured I could save some time if I tried rods that fit into the
slower side of action. I have cast a superfine and that was perfect
for me more relaxed, but those seem hard to find and the "trout bum"
series is out of my range. Any help appreciated,

I would never fish one of these personally but the Cabela's Three Forks rods
or the Temple Fork Finese series of rods are well within your price range
and offer slower action and some folks seem to like them. Personally I would
either try to stick a few more pennies away or look to the used market for
the older whorvis rods, sage LL or sp series or the Winston IM6. Sage has
just dropped another rod series and the SLT series will be discounted but
not down to $200.

I agree with Wayne but you're not going to find a vintage Sage LL
in your price range. Last I looked on eBay they were going for close
to $500. In addition to the Cabela's and the TFO in the lower price
range you'll want to try the Echo Classic from Tim Rajeff's Echo line:

http://www.echoflyfishing.com/echo_small.php

I've tried this one in the 5wt and it's a decent rod for $140. It's
not a great rod by any means, but for $140 it's decent.

For shame, for shame! Neither of you suggested an old fishable 'boo or
'glass. Heck, any number of decent old rods could be had for under
$200USD.

TC,
R

the old loomis gl3 was a soft rod and around 200 bucks as i recall. i
had one i liked a lot, but it took flight from the roof of my car one
night after a late evening of fishing the blue ridge with wally and an
old fella from chicago named joel... vodka was an accomplice as i recall.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"Old fella?"
It was gin!
Joel

Joel *DFD* wrote:

the old loomis gl3 was a soft rod and around 200 bucks as i recall. i
had one i liked a lot, but it took flight from the roof of my car one
night after a late evening of fishing the blue ridge with wally and an
old fella from chicago named joel... vodka was an accomplice as i recall.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


"Old fella?"
It was gin!
Joel


there you are! i've missed you. what's been happening with you?
getting out of the city with big shoulders?

jeff

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
...

(and I could take pictures of you casting both of them ... and post the
links here ... just for posterity's sake ... )

You're a wicked and evil man

Wayne Knight wrote:

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
...

(and I could take pictures of you casting both of them ... and post the
links here ... just for posterity's sake ... )

You're a wicked and evil man

Thank you. :-)

So, maybe you'll let me "test-cast" a nice old 'boo instead? ;-)


Chuck Vance (I'll even bring some furled leaders)

On Sep 5, 9:28?pm, jeff wrote:
Joel *DFD* wrote:

the old loomis gl3 was a soft rod and around 200 bucks as i recall. i
had one i liked a lot, but it took flight from the roof of my car one
night after a late evening of fishing the blue ridge with wally and an
old fella from chicago named joel... vodka was an accomplice as i recall.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"Old fella?"
It was gin!
Joel

there you are! i've missed you. what's been happening with you?
getting out of the city with big shoulders?

jeff

Just got back from Wyoming. Fished 5 days with Dave PA. We had a
great time.
Very fine trip. Caught some beautiful big trout. Dave slayed them on
the Madison
River. I couldn't even make a TR because it's so unbelievable.
Fished the Wisconsin river with Wolf and George Clevland about 6 or 7
weeks
ago. Wasn't as good as it was when you were there. On Sunday, before
I returned home, George and I fished the Praire River for those
beautiful Brookies just like you get in North Carolina. We caught
lots.
Still feeling pretty good for an "old fella" of 70 years and still
enjoying a good Martini..
Maybe you'll make the Penns Clave next spring. I'm planning on being
there.
Hope to see you then.
Joel