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  #11  
Old October 23rd, 2003, 03:40 PM
Jarmo Hurri
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Hi Ralph!

Ralph while there a few a few rivers that feature decent trout
Ralph fishing along with good or even great salmon fishing. There
Ralph aren't many.

I'm thinking that maybe we could do a week of salmon fishing, then a
week of trout fishing etc. (As long as the budget and the wife can
take it.) So it doesn't have to be the same river, but with the huge
distances inside B.C., I think I better add that it should be in the
same ballpark. Say withing 300 miles of each other.

Heck, on the other hand, one turn-and-return flight (or train trip)
inside B.C. might also be possible, so perhaps the different fishing
spots could even be separated by long distances. But I'm not sure
about that.

The main question is - and I'm afraid that this sounds like a really
stupid question to you B.C. people - what is the quality of trout
fishing at different times of year, assuming that you can go to the
best trout rivers? I mean, if we come there in August or September,
will we be able to find first class trout fishing somewhere? Maybe the
trout are on a vacation or something, right? :-) But I guess that
since rainbow trout spawn in the spring, there at least isn't a closed
season or anything like that. But they might be in the lakes, and not
in the rivers or streams. So that's at least one theoretical
possibility, since we're not really into stillwater fishing.

Ralph After about mid May until well into july there is limited
Ralph angling on most coastal rivers as the sun melts off the
Ralph hillsides.

That's what I was afraid of. I guess this would then direct the
timetable towards the autumn.

Ralph It should be possible to coordinate a trip of 4 weeks or so
Ralph that would give you a shot at coho and steelhead in the Skeena
Ralph watershed.

Coho and steelhead... I've got a hole in my knowledge base here. Would
that be in the autumn then? I thought the steelhead run starts in
January? Or do you have a fall/late summer steelhead run as well?

Ralph Down south it wouldn't likely be possible - excepting the Stamp
Ralph river on Vancouver Island. ... These are not wild places though
Ralph - lots of houses and lots of fishermen.

And less bears - or if not less, then at least a smaller probability
of being eaten! Anyway, I guess we wouldn't want to jam ourselves into
heavily crowded places on *this* trip.

We also talked about that other island further up north when I was
there... Can't remember the name now.

Ralph The Harrison River you and I fished for an hour or two last
Ralph December can have good fishing for coastal cutts in September
Ralph and into october - by then that river starts to fill up with
Ralph all 5 species of salmon. The Skagit river (above the US border)
Ralph also has good fishing for rainbow from about 30 to 45 cm and
Ralph some large char (2 to 3 kilos) into October.

Sounds pretty damn good to me! We've already ordered a couple of books
on fly-fishing in the area, so after we've read them we'll be ready to
discuss some specifics.

And Ralph, as you know, nothing beats local knowledge, so thanks!

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Old October 24th, 2003, 04:50 AM
RalphH
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The 'other' Islands are the Queen Charlottes. The rivers, beaches and the
ocean are known for great salmon fishing. As well the lakes, rivers and
beaches have cutthroat and char. It's popular "do it yourself' place as
there is good road access on the 2 main Islands plus motels & hotels. I
think late summer into Fall are the best times for a fly angler working the
beaches and the streams but of course you need to do your own research. The
major rivers if memory serves are the Yakoun, the Tlell, the Deena and the
Copper.

The famous inland Steelhead runs of the Skeena watershed like the Kispiox,
Babine, Bulkely and Zoemoetz (aka Copper) time in the fall - they are true
summer run fish - usually best in October runs actually enter the Bulkley by
late August. Coho also time in late summer into fall. The closer to the
coast you go the later the coho run - so rivers from Terrace and west should
have good fishing in mid Sept into October.

Some rivers on Vancouver Island have later arriving summer steelhead. These
are usually smaller fish similar to Atlantic Salmon Grilse. The Stamp has by
far the largest run plus a large run of coho and Chinook making for some
challenging fishing in the last half of September through October with the
steelhead fishing staying good until the winter runs show in late November.
Access on the Stamp can be a problem particularly if the river is high
following rain and then a boat is necessary.

The "world Class" trout rivers in BC a

The Elk (Southeast BC), westslope cutthroat and char mid summer into fall
The Columbia below Castlegar (Southeast BC), large Rainbows great dry fly
fishing
the Thompson from Savona down to Martel (South Central BC) rainbows ( some
over 4lbs) early summer into fall. The Thompson has a late fall run of very
large steelhead usually fished below Martel to Spences Bridge.
The Horsefly (central BC) - mid Summer - challenging rainbows to 4lbs or so
The Chilco (Central BC) in the few miles below Chilco Lake - 'bows to
several pounds plus char mid summer into Sept.
The Blackwater - Central BC - fish a minute pan sized 'bows plus large char
The Stellako (North Central) - rainbows to about 4lbs - said to be very
challenging
The Upper Babine - early summer is best -

No doubt there are others.


"Jarmo Hurri" wrote in message
...

Hi Ralph!

Ralph while there a few a few rivers that feature decent trout
Ralph fishing along with good or even great salmon fishing. There
Ralph aren't many.

I'm thinking that maybe we could do a week of salmon fishing, then a
week of trout fishing etc. (As long as the budget and the wife can
take it.) So it doesn't have to be the same river, but with the huge
distances inside B.C., I think I better add that it should be in the
same ballpark. Say withing 300 miles of each other.

Heck, on the other hand, one turn-and-return flight (or train trip)
inside B.C. might also be possible, so perhaps the different fishing
spots could even be separated by long distances. But I'm not sure
about that.

The main question is - and I'm afraid that this sounds like a really
stupid question to you B.C. people - what is the quality of trout
fishing at different times of year, assuming that you can go to the
best trout rivers? I mean, if we come there in August or September,
will we be able to find first class trout fishing somewhere? Maybe the
trout are on a vacation or something, right? :-) But I guess that
since rainbow trout spawn in the spring, there at least isn't a closed
season or anything like that. But they might be in the lakes, and not
in the rivers or streams. So that's at least one theoretical
possibility, since we're not really into stillwater fishing.

Ralph After about mid May until well into july there is limited
Ralph angling on most coastal rivers as the sun melts off the
Ralph hillsides.

That's what I was afraid of. I guess this would then direct the
timetable towards the autumn.

Ralph It should be possible to coordinate a trip of 4 weeks or so
Ralph that would give you a shot at coho and steelhead in the Skeena
Ralph watershed.

Coho and steelhead... I've got a hole in my knowledge base here. Would
that be in the autumn then? I thought the steelhead run starts in
January? Or do you have a fall/late summer steelhead run as well?

Ralph Down south it wouldn't likely be possible - excepting the Stamp
Ralph river on Vancouver Island. ... These are not wild places though
Ralph - lots of houses and lots of fishermen.

And less bears - or if not less, then at least a smaller probability
of being eaten! Anyway, I guess we wouldn't want to jam ourselves into
heavily crowded places on *this* trip.

We also talked about that other island further up north when I was
there... Can't remember the name now.

Ralph The Harrison River you and I fished for an hour or two last
Ralph December can have good fishing for coastal cutts in September
Ralph and into october - by then that river starts to fill up with
Ralph all 5 species of salmon. The Skagit river (above the US border)
Ralph also has good fishing for rainbow from about 30 to 45 cm and
Ralph some large char (2 to 3 kilos) into October.

Sounds pretty damn good to me! We've already ordered a couple of books
on fly-fishing in the area, so after we've read them we'll be ready to
discuss some specifics.

And Ralph, as you know, nothing beats local knowledge, so thanks!

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Jarmo Hurri

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Old October 24th, 2003, 08:19 AM
Jarmo Hurri
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[Ralph wrote *a lot* of useful information about B.C. fishing.]

Thanks, Ralph! So it seems that in September-October it is possible to
fish for (and even catch)
1. steelhead
2. coho
3. trout
4. chinook
5. perhaps also sockeye?

This is exactly what we wanted to hear. :-)

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Old October 25th, 2003, 06:54 AM
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Hey Ken everyone except you mentions how good the Skeena and it trib's
are...I wasn't friggin advertizing I was just trying to shorten the man's
time searching for a great place to fish...people like you Ken give me a
pain in the ass....peace gord p


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Old October 25th, 2003, 02:14 PM
Ken Fortenberry
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Rivers North wrote:

...I wasn't friggin advertizing I was just trying to shorten the man's
time searching for a great place to fish...people like you Ken give me a
pain in the ass....peace gord p


You're a goddamn liar, Gord. An opportunistic, lying piece of ****.
And I am proud to be a pain in your lying ass. Now, you can kiss mine.

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Old October 25th, 2003, 08:42 PM
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 05:54:29 GMT, "Rivers North"
wrote:

Hey Ken everyone except you mentions how good the Skeena and it trib's
are...I wasn't friggin advertizing


Not true. The entire site is advertising for one company. The
'information' page is for the customer to sign up for the services.
The 'environment' page seems to be all about how you can transport
people doing studies from all I could stand to read of it.



I was just trying to shorten the man's
time searching for a great place to fish...


Yep. YOUR place. Your profit.


people like you Ken give me a
pain in the ass....


Yes, Ken, among other traits that we may or may not enjoy, loves being
a pain in every orifice to SPAMmers. May his cattle prod always have
electricity to spare.

Thank you, Ken.

peace gord p


You keep your peace and we'll be quiet, too. He nailed you fair and
square. Whining just irritates some of the rest of us who'd have
otherwise kept quiet.

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rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

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Old October 25th, 2003, 11:18 PM
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:02:20 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:

devastating, deadly, humiliating homily snipped
Thank you, Ken. ...


Yeah, thank you too, I guess, but now you've gone and run him off
already. We'll never see hide nor hair of Gord ever again.

You're quick, lethal and merciful, roff's best bouncer by far, but
as for me, I like to play with them for a little while before I run
them off.

Spoilsport. When do I get to be bouncer again ? ;-)



Oops. Sorry.

If we get to fish together, you can shove me underwater, prevent my
lovely new inflatable vest from working, pile rocks on top of me, and
take over from there. Or you can just ask.

But I'll rise from a watery grave or post at will at them when they
whine. I hate whining SPAMmers.
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rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

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