Swedish Lapland Clave 2004, first step.

"Roger Ohlund" wrote in message
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I must be mad.......
Or it might be the fact that we had a good time this year.

Here goes:
I'm starting to plan for another clave in Swedish Lapland and after some
discussions with Vaughan and Jarmo plus some indications from Myron I have
come up with three alternatives.

#1. We try for a place as remote as possible. We're talking helicopter, as
the only other option would be to walk for two - three days. Usually this
would mean a cost of about US$ 300 per person and the need for tents ( +
expenses for food and permits ). This would either be the sand ridge
country
(so far north that the Arctic Circle is way distant in the south), or the
upper reaches of river Laisan.

#2. We fly in and live at one of the most remote fishing camps in Sweden,
also way north of the Arctic Circle. The price would then amount to about
US$ 585 per person ( + expenses for food and permits ). This alternative
is
the Miekak fishing camp.

#3. We fish an area famous for its excellent fishing and reachable by car.
There are 5 different creeks in the area. Cost? Well, fishing permits of
course and if you feel like living at a mountain resort that can be fixed
but will cost some, whilst tents are more or less free (if you own one).
Also cost for food. This alternative is the area around Saxnas village in
the municipality of Vilhelmina.

All three destinations hold trout fishing and destinations #2 - #3 also
hold
Arctic Char (and #1 if we aim for the sand ridge country).
A week's permit is around US$ 30 for most destinations.

The preferred time for this clave would be the beginning of August.

It's early yet and I thought to ask what interest there might be and in
what
kind of destination. Also, if there is some questions from the interested
I'll
try to answer those.


First thoughts: any of the above sounds good to me. As I'm flying up from
Congo, the less I need to carry (tents, sleeping bags, etc), the better;
however, I realize that using tents, etc. means there are more options of
where to go. If we went with a remote fly-in, I'd consider buying something
fairly inexpensive and leaving it with someone after the clave.

The first week in August would have to be the latest for me....I think I
have to be back in Congo on August 10. Theres a chance it might be a week
later, and if so, I'll let you know.

Char is good. Remote is good. Is there an option #4: remote fly-in to a less
expensive/exclusive lodge than Miekak? This is a big step up in cost from
last year.

--riverman

"riverman" wrote in message
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"Roger Ohlund" wrote in message
...
I must be mad.......
Or it might be the fact that we had a good time this year.

Here goes:
I'm starting to plan for another clave in Swedish Lapland and after some
discussions with Vaughan and Jarmo plus some indications from Myron I
have
come up with three alternatives.

#1. We try for a place as remote as possible. We're talking helicopter,
as
the only other option would be to walk for two - three days. Usually
this
would mean a cost of about US$ 300 per person and the need for tents ( +
expenses for food and permits ). This would either be the sand ridge
country
(so far north that the Arctic Circle is way distant in the south), or
the
upper reaches of river Laisan.

#2. We fly in and live at one of the most remote fishing camps in
Sweden,
also way north of the Arctic Circle. The price would then amount to
about
US$ 585 per person ( + expenses for food and permits ). This alternative
is
the Miekak fishing camp.

#3. We fish an area famous for its excellent fishing and reachable by
car.
There are 5 different creeks in the area. Cost? Well, fishing permits of
course and if you feel like living at a mountain resort that can be
fixed
but will cost some, whilst tents are more or less free (if you own one).
Also cost for food. This alternative is the area around Saxnas village
in
the municipality of Vilhelmina.

All three destinations hold trout fishing and destinations #2 - #3 also
hold
Arctic Char (and #1 if we aim for the sand ridge country).
A week's permit is around US$ 30 for most destinations.

The preferred time for this clave would be the beginning of August.

It's early yet and I thought to ask what interest there might be and in
what
kind of destination. Also, if there is some questions from the
interested
I'll
try to answer those.


First thoughts: any of the above sounds good to me. As I'm flying up from
Congo, the less I need to carry (tents, sleeping bags, etc), the better;
however, I realize that using tents, etc. means there are more options of
where to go. If we went with a remote fly-in, I'd consider buying
something
fairly inexpensive and leaving it with someone after the clave.

The first week in August would have to be the latest for me....I think I
have to be back in Congo on August 10. Theres a chance it might be a week
later, and if so, I'll let you know.

Char is good. Remote is good. Is there an option #4: remote fly-in to a
less
expensive/exclusive lodge than Miekak? This is a big step up in cost from
last year.

--riverman

There are three different lodges that I can think of, one of them even more
expensive than Miekak and the other at the same cost level.
I put this post in to find out what opinions people might have about this
years clave. In the end I have to decide one destination and I'm not likely
to satisfy each and everyones wish.
I'm constantly looking at options but have yet to find a new #4 category of
choice.
It's early yet.......

/Roger

There are three different lodges that I can think of, one of them even
more
expensive than Miekak and the other at the same cost level.
I put this post in to find out what opinions people might have about this
years clave. In the end I have to decide one destination and I'm not
likely
to satisfy each and everyones wish.
I'm constantly looking at options but have yet to find a new #4 category
of
choice.
It's early yet.......

/Roger




Roger,
How about a fly-in to Kaitum with tents? Or the C&R stretch on Malån? This
is down in the forest again but?

Vaughan

"Vaughan Hurry" wrote in message
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Roger,
How about a fly-in to Kaitum with tents? Or the C&R stretch on Malån? This
is down in the forest again but?

Vaughan


If we look at the fly in option and consider using tents as a means to cut
prices,
- Why go any place near a camp?

I know that three of my friends will probably be attending, all have
excellent tents which means that 4 more people wouldn't have to consider
bringing tents, so this would make an interesting option.

I noticed that you had an eye on the intersection of Ghorvvejokk, Ittejohka
and Tavvaeatnu. I've been there and fished for a week. Excellent grayling
water with Arctic char in the lakes, also some trout.

I'm leaning towards the Saxnas alternative, not because I feel it's the best
place, but because it is by far the easiest to reach and cheapest
alternative.

However, I'd relly like for this event to become something special. To
consider all the water far north and high up the mountains as an
alternative, and the fact that if people travel far it might become the trip
of their lifetime, is quite fascinating.

/Roger

I noticed that you had an eye on the intersection of Ghorvvejokk,
Ittejohka
and Tavvaeatnu. I've been there and fished for a week. Excellent grayling
water with Arctic char in the lakes, also some trout.


Yes, that was one of the areas that immediately came to mind and I am very
keen to try it. I have two tents so could loan someone my 1-man tent.


I'm leaning towards the Saxnas alternative, not because I feel it's the
best
place, but because it is by far the easiest to reach and cheapest
alternative.

This is also good - but if possible the fly-in would be my favoured option.

Vaughan

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:35:49 +0100, "Roger Ohlund"
wrote:

I'm leaning towards the Saxnas alternative, not because I feel it's the best
place, but because it is by far the easiest to reach and cheapest
alternative.

I'd really like to try and make it over next year but I can't commit
just yet, so don't let my preferences carry too much weight.

I should be home from the western US clave and any post clave side
trips by the beginning of August, so the timing is good for me. I
wouldn't mind sleeping in a tent, but would rather not have to bring
too much camping gear. Cheaper is probably better for me, too.
--
Charlie...