Swedish Lapland Clave 2004, first step.

I would be enthusiastic for a simpler, and cheaper, option of going to the
upper Laisan as well. Especially since I will probably go to the sand
ridge
country myself anyway...........

cheers

Vaughan


Hey Vaughan (Roger, et al)
What about a trip into Suomi? I know there are great areas in Northern
Finland where there are char, trout and salmon (although the salmon permits
are expensive). I fished an area SE of Ivalo (I have to look at my maps at
home to know the name specifically, bit I think it was the headwaters of the
Kemijoki), and there were cheap cabins, a shop, and about 15 streams
accessible by foot or by car in the region. Several of the streams drained
eastward into Russia, and they had the best fishing. It might be interesting
to go there, and its not a LOT longer than a drive to northern Sweden.

--riverman

"riverman" wrote in message
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I would be enthusiastic for a simpler, and cheaper, option of going to
the
upper Laisan as well. Especially since I will probably go to the sand
ridge
country myself anyway...........

cheers

Vaughan


Hey Vaughan (Roger, et al)
What about a trip into Suomi? I know there are great areas in Northern
Finland where there are char, trout and salmon (although the salmon
permits
are expensive). I fished an area SE of Ivalo (I have to look at my maps at
home to know the name specifically, bit I think it was the headwaters of
the
Kemijoki), and there were cheap cabins, a shop, and about 15 streams
accessible by foot or by car in the region. Several of the streams drained
eastward into Russia, and they had the best fishing. It might be
interesting
to go there, and its not a LOT longer than a drive to northern Sweden.


The region I remember is Tulppio. I'd go back there in a heartbeat.

--riverman

"riverman" wrote in message
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"riverman" wrote in message
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I would be enthusiastic for a simpler, and cheaper, option of going to
the
upper Laisan as well. Especially since I will probably go to the sand
ridge
country myself anyway...........

cheers

Vaughan


Hey Vaughan (Roger, et al)
What about a trip into Suomi? I know there are great areas in Northern
Finland where there are char, trout and salmon (although the salmon
permits
are expensive). I fished an area SE of Ivalo (I have to look at my maps
at
home to know the name specifically, bit I think it was the headwaters of
the
Kemijoki), and there were cheap cabins, a shop, and about 15 streams
accessible by foot or by car in the region. Several of the streams
drained
eastward into Russia, and they had the best fishing. It might be
interesting
to go there, and its not a LOT longer than a drive to northern Sweden.


The region I remember is Tulppio. I'd go back there in a heartbeat.

--riverman


Tempting.......
This would mean a Lapland clave where I would not be clavemeister (Finnish
Lapland).

However, If Jarmo doesn't jump at the opportunity, I think I'll stay with
Swedish Lapland. It would after all simplify arranging things, at least for
me.

/Roger

The region I remember is Tulppio. I'd go back there in a heartbeat.

--riverman


Could be done. Jarmo? Osmo?

Vaughan

"Vaughan Hurry" kirjoitti viestissä
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The region I remember is Tulppio. I'd go back there in a heartbeat.

--riverman


Could be done. Jarmo? Osmo?

Vaughan et al.

Sounds good for me: But as Roger said, he is not going to be the
clavemaister!
My resources are also limited but I could try to help as much as possible.

Tulppio is place, where there are several rivers reachable as Myron
mentioned:
Nuorttijoki, Sotajoki, Tulppiojoki, etc.

What becomes to Swedish Lapland Clave 2004, for me such a low cost option
like #3 is good. I am ready to live in tent but a sauna at least twice
during the week
out there would be more than desireable! What you think about a tent sauna,
swimming
in a cool river and take beer, whisky?

OsmoJ

riverman What about a trip into Suomi?

The place you're talking about (river near Tulppio) is probably
Nuorttijoki. I haven't been there myself, but my friends told me that
it is a very beautiful river, and quite unlike most other Finnish
rivers in Lapland (in terms of vegetation, at least).

I was visiting a river a bit north of Nuorttijoki last June
(Suomujoki). A gorgeous river, but seemed to have surprisingly few
fish. (I was mostly hiking, but wet the line a couple of times, with
no effect.) As with Nuorttijoki, a hiking trail follows the river, and
there's quite a bit of fishing pressure. Of course there is a chance
to catch a *really* big trout (swimming up the river from Russia), but
otherwise I wouldn't really call fishing over there good. At least
when compared with what I've experienced in Sweden.

No offense to my home country, but unfortunately I think that there is
a reason why so many Finns go fishing to Sweden, but relatively few
Swedes come to Finland. That is at least my impression, I'd like to
hear Osmo's opinion on this. For some reason, the Swedes just have it
better. I'm not sure if it's just a geographical thing (number of
lakes and rivers), or what else affects it. I'm not saying that there
are no good rivers, but still...

On the other hand, if we want to do it someday, a salmon / grayling
clave in August in river Teno would probably provide world class
fishing. For some photos of this "stream", see the links with word
"Teno" on this page:

http://www.perhokalastajat.org/kalapaikat.htm

--
Jarmo Hurri

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riverman What about a trip into Suomi?

The place you're talking about (river near Tulppio) is probably
Nuorttijoki. I haven't been there myself, but my friends told me that
it is a very beautiful river, and quite unlike most other Finnish
rivers in Lapland (in terms of vegetation, at least).

I was visiting a river a bit north of Nuorttijoki last June
(Suomujoki). A gorgeous river, but seemed to have surprisingly few
fish. (I was mostly hiking, but wet the line a couple of times, with
no effect.) As with Nuorttijoki, a hiking trail follows the river, and
there's quite a bit of fishing pressure. Of course there is a chance
to catch a *really* big trout (swimming up the river from Russia), but
otherwise I wouldn't really call fishing over there good. At least
when compared with what I've experienced in Sweden.


Jarmo,

I have never visited Nuorttijoki. But at summer 2002 we made a trip to
Suomujoki. The water was very low at that time (end of June). We were hiking
some 12 km up from Aittajarvi to the cabin of Porttikoski. We caughed small
graylings, some fullfilling the minimum size requirement, and small trout. When
walking backwards we fished some time at Porttikoski. Small trout mostly, but
my son Miikka had a nice trout hooked once. Broken leader and lost fish,
possibly 3 kilos or so.

When we came back to our car, we met two hiking guides, who told us that
we should have walked more further upstream, 15 to 20 km, to have much better
chances to get real fishing experiences.

For the next summer we are planning a trip to Naatamojoki (Nejden in Norway)
up in northeastern Finland. Means walking some 6 km minimum to reach the
river from the road to Sevettijarvi. But may be a good experience! Decent graylings,
big trout and even salmon going up from the sea.

There is also a competing offer for Swedish Clave 2004! I just heard from my friend
that he is arranging a fishing safari to Vodlozero (Vodlajarvi) in Karelia, Russia, next
August. There will be a group of spinner fishermen from Kuopio districkt participating
this trip. I am investigating the chances for flyfishing the rivers around the lake.
There is a national park around this lake, but the fishing is allowed.

Some links:
www.sll.fi/mpe/vodla/VodlaHome.html
http://www.onego.ru/win/vodlozero/

When I get more information, I let you know!

OsmoJ