Swedish Lapland Clave 2004, first step.

"Vaughan Hurry" wrote in message
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Roger,
You are mad and we did have a good time................

Some thoughts:
So far as I know, I'm up for any of the 3 with preferences pretty much in
the order you list them. I was thinking about a clave in the sand ridge
country this weekend. The only problem I see is that in august we might
have
low water and small streams. Not really a problem of course but if you
take
Harrejokk where Jarmo and I went - we had great fishing but it would have
been difficult to spread 8 or 10 guys out along that stream without
splitting into 2 or more groups, which might also work OK. There are
plenty
of alternatives, such as the upper reaches of Taava atno where there are 3
streams and a few small lakes in walking distance. I have not fished there
but it would be very interesting to visit.....

The streams north of Rostujauvri (sorry I can not spell any of these names
correctly but you know where I mean) could be exciting as well. I would
not
recommend dropping 8 or 10 guys on Rostaelva in august. Not enough fishing
for that group plus the others already there. We need one of the lesser
know
areas and there are many other options, especially if we looked for
somewhere with a larger lake where we could also take float tubes........

I would be enthusiastic for a simpler, and cheaper, option of going to the
upper Laisan as well. Especially since I will probably go to the sand
ridge
country myself anyway...........

cheers

Vaughan


Hmmmmm.........
You guys have a positive approach to almost all my suggestions, which of
course is helping me none ;-(
We'll see, once we get some more responses, if there's anything in there to
help with the decision.

/Roger

Hmmmmm.........
You guys have a positive approach to almost all my suggestions, which of
course is helping me none ;-(
We'll see, once we get some more responses, if there's anything in there
to
help with the decision.

/Roger


OK, how about this. Only 5 star fishing lodges employing only female
guides - none over 25 or under 5'10". And only those who can cast a minimum
of 20m into the wind with a 2 wt need consider attending. Does that help
limit the field a bit? Of course, I am disqualified on all the criteria, but
anything to be helpful............:-)

Vaughan

Roger Ohlund wrote:

Hmmmmm.........
You guys have a positive approach to almost all my suggestions, which of
course is helping me none ;-(
We'll see, once we get some more responses, if there's anything in there to
help with the decision.

/Roger



Let me make it a tad easier for you then.. Since cost and comfort are an
issue for me, I'd go for option 3.
Chances are I'll be decorating and painting my new house by then, but if
there's any way I can make it I will be there.

--
Herman

"Herman Nijland" wrote in message
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Let me make it a tad easier for you then.. Since cost and comfort are an
issue for me, I'd go for option 3.
Chances are I'll be decorating and painting my new house by then, but if
there's any way I can make it I will be there.


Consider the fact that you'll be doing a much nicer job at painting and
decorating if you go fishing for a week before.
I can see how cost can be an issue but what kind of comfort issue are we
talking here?

/Roger

Roger Ohlund wrote:
"Herman Nijland" wrote in message
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Let me make it a tad easier for you then.. Since cost and comfort are an
issue for me, I'd go for option 3.
Chances are I'll be decorating and painting my new house by then, but if
there's any way I can make it I will be there.



Consider the fact that you'll be doing a much nicer job at painting and
decorating if you go fishing for a week before.
I can see how cost can be an issue but what kind of comfort issue are we
talking here?

/Roger



I'll try that excuse on my wife :-)

Ah, comfort.. I think it is easier to explain what comfort is not, for
me of course :-). In short - comfort is not continuously being eaten
alive by bugs. Whenever I hear the words 'north Sweden' and 'August' in
one sentence, I see huge swarms of tiny, hungry knuts. I hope I'm wrong.
Plus, I like camping, but when I can get a cabin on a fishing trip I
definitely take it. Trips like this are real treats for me, and I like
to experience my treats to the fullest. A chair to sit on and a table to
put my drink make a difference.
While we're on the subject, a sauna and a post-fishing massage by a
voluptuous she-Swede wouldn't hurt either g.

--
Herman, and maybe a pre-fishing massage?

Comfort as in "my back won't like sleeping on the hard floor for one week"
whislt the intensive fishing is usually enough to provide a few sore limbs.
Recuperating is quite crucial after 15h fishing a day at odd times.
However I have to say that staying in a remote place is really what I am
after and if the package appeals and tents is the group consensus I will
probably end up going along. Just for the fun of meeting you guys.

Regarding cost: in absolute terms I can afford all 3 options but a drive
from Umea is the most sensible with potentially a helo flight for the final
leg of the journey...rather than a 1st flight to Stockholm + internal flight
+ transfer.
Saxnas might be easier to get to.

If the group is large, fishing space is critical as "combat fishing" is the
last thing in my mind. For me it is about sharing some experiences with a
group but also enjoying the solitude in stunning scenery.
Anymore for anymore?
Jerome


Roger Ohlund wrote in message
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"Herman Nijland" wrote in message
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Let me make it a tad easier for you then.. Since cost and comfort are an
issue for me, I'd go for option 3.
Chances are I'll be decorating and painting my new house by then, but if
there's any way I can make it I will be there.


Consider the fact that you'll be doing a much nicer job at painting and
decorating if you go fishing for a week before.
I can see how cost can be an issue but what kind of comfort issue are we
talking here?

/Roger

The Leaping Frog wrote:

Comfort as in "my back won't like sleeping on the hard floor for one week"
whislt the intensive fishing is usually enough to provide a few sore limbs.
Recuperating is quite crucial after 15h fishing a day at odd times.
However I have to say that staying in a remote place is really what I am
after and if the package appeals and tents is the group consensus I will
probably end up going along. Just for the fun of meeting you guys.

That's it, exactly.
--
Herman

Thanks Herman, I nearly felt like an old man saying that.

Jerome
Herman Nijland wrote in message
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The Leaping Frog wrote:

Comfort as in "my back won't like sleeping on the hard floor for one
week"
whislt the intensive fishing is usually enough to provide a few sore
limbs.
Recuperating is quite crucial after 15h fishing a day at odd times.
However I have to say that staying in a remote place is really what I am
after and if the package appeals and tents is the group consensus I will
probably end up going along. Just for the fun of meeting you guys.

That's it, exactly.
--
Herman

"The Leaping Frog" wrote in message
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Thanks Herman, I nearly felt like an old man saying that.

Does this make Herman an old man??

Jerome,

You won't experience "combat fishing" in any of these alternatives. There's
so much space in these locations that if you want you can fish in solitude
for a week.

I'm getting a sense that it's all about money. I know Osmo, Stefan, Herman
and "Charlie Choc" consider this to be an issue.
It is after all an issue, I would myself have to start putting aside money
right now, but it would be worth it though.

What can I say, nothing is for free but of course destinations like Miekak
cost more than others.
If comfort is an issue than the remote heli and tenting alternative is out.

I think Myron, and you, proposed a couple of days heli lift and the rest in
a camp. That could be done, only thing is that we would have to pick a cheap
camp since the heli lift is just as expensive if you're on a two day trip as
on a seven day trip.

/Roger