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while I don't know how Tom or
anyone else could really know how one of us unknown FFers had
contributed more to the sport than another unknown, I would accept Tom's
word that when Sandy opens his mouth with regard to FFing, he knows of
what he speaks - again, EMMV.

TC,
R

The first magazine article I read of Sandy's was, IIRC, in
Fly Tyer around 1981 or so. Since then, he has published more. He is known
as one of the West's most innovative
tyers, and is generally held in VERY high regard by most
serious professional and amateur tiers.
OTOH, Fortenberry discovered Fawn Lake.
Take your pick as a knowledge base.......
Tom

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:26:08 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
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wrote in message
.. .
while I don't know how Tom or
anyone else could really know how one of us unknown FFers had
contributed more to the sport than another unknown, I would accept Tom's
word that when Sandy opens his mouth with regard to FFing, he knows of
what he speaks - again, EMMV.

TC,
R

The first magazine article I read of Sandy's was, IIRC, in
Fly Tyer around 1981 or so. Since then, he has published more. He is known
as one of the West's most innovative
tyers, and is generally held in VERY high regard by most
serious professional and amateur tiers.
OTOH, Fortenberry discovered Fawn Lake.
Take your pick as a knowledge base.......

I gotta say that I don't generally go for such broad subjective
statements on such a diverse thing as FFing, especially when there
really is no way to verify them - sorta like your view of checking on
_readers_ of ROFF. IAC, as I said, I'd certainly take your word in
"vouching" for his knowledge. As to Ken and Fawn Lake, based on what I
read in the Battle of Fawn Lake (thankfully, not all of it), I suspect
that at least some of it was shtick, but ???

And as to Ken and Sandy, um, interaction...well, I'm sure they are both
delightful young ladies and as soon as they get used to having their
monthly visitor, they'll be just like Paris and Nicole again...

TC,
R
....currently dealing with tropicalstormus interuptus - we could actually
use the rain, and thus far, not even puddles...

Tom

wrote:
As to Ken and Fawn Lake, based on what I
read in the Battle of Fawn Lake (thankfully, not all of it), I suspect
that at least some of it was shtick, but ???


nah...not even close. you're a keen observer, but you missed that one.
ken did do a bit of equivocating (from his initial "there is no fawn
lake" to "it's an unfishable mudhole"), but no shticking. He didn't
tell the truth and he's shtuck with his lie. g

jeff (likewise, the bad weather in eastern nc this morning kept me from
more pleasant encounters with the puppy drum, but tomorrow's a new day)

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 15:08:17 -0400, Jeff wrote:

wrote:
As to Ken and Fawn Lake, based on what I
read in the Battle of Fawn Lake (thankfully, not all of it), I suspect
that at least some of it was shtick, but ???


nah...not even close. you're a keen observer, but you missed that one.
ken did do a bit of equivocating (from his initial "there is no fawn
lake" to "it's an unfishable mudhole"), but no shticking. He didn't
tell the truth and he's shtuck with his lie. g

Since having enough info to offer a more in-depth opinion on the Battle
of Fawn Lake than I already have would require, well, acquiring that
info, I'll take your word for it...

jeff (likewise, the bad weather in eastern nc this morning kept me from
more pleasant encounters with the puppy drum, but tomorrow's a new day)

Good luck with the fishing,
R

wrote:
Jeff wrote:
wrote:
As to Ken and Fawn Lake, based on what I
read in the Battle of Fawn Lake (thankfully, not all of it), I suspect
that at least some of it was shtick, but ???

nah...not even close. you're a keen observer, but you missed that one.
ken did do a bit of equivocating (from his initial "there is no fawn
lake" to "it's an unfishable mudhole"), but no shticking. He didn't
tell the truth and he's shtuck with his lie. g

Since having enough info to offer a more in-depth opinion on the Battle
of Fawn Lake than I already have would require, well, acquiring that
info, I'll take your word for it...

Years and years worth of shtick but I was hoping to get one
more roffian contingent to hike all the way up to that mass
of unfishable weeds just for one last laugh. Someone suggested
I should open a concession stand up there. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:59:30 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:
Jeff wrote:
wrote:
As to Ken and Fawn Lake, based on what I
read in the Battle of Fawn Lake (thankfully, not all of it), I suspect
that at least some of it was shtick, but ???

nah...not even close. you're a keen observer, but you missed that one.
ken did do a bit of equivocating (from his initial "there is no fawn
lake" to "it's an unfishable mudhole"), but no shticking. He didn't
tell the truth and he's shtuck with his lie. g

Since having enough info to offer a more in-depth opinion on the Battle
of Fawn Lake than I already have would require, well, acquiring that
info, I'll take your word for it...

Years and years worth of shtick but I was hoping to get one
more roffian contingent to hike all the way up to that mass
of unfishable weeds just for one last laugh. Someone suggested
I should open a concession stand up there. ;-)

Since having enough info to offer a more in-depth opinion on the Battle
of Fawn Lake than I already have would require, well, acquiring that
info, I'll take your word for it...

TC,
R

Tom Littleton wrote:
wrote:
while I don't know how Tom or
anyone else could really know how one of us unknown FFers had
contributed more to the sport than another unknown, I would accept Tom's
word that when Sandy opens his mouth with regard to FFing, he knows of
what he speaks - again, EMMV.

The first magazine article I read of Sandy's was, IIRC, in
Fly Tyer around 1981 or so. Since then, he has published more. He is known
as one of the West's most innovative
tyers, and is generally held in VERY high regard by most
serious professional and amateur tiers.
OTOH, Fortenberry discovered Fawn Lake.
Take your pick as a knowledge base.......
Tom

I didn't know we were talking about "knowledge bases".

Anyone who issues threats of physical violence on a Usenet
newsgroup, as Pittendrigh did, should be considered a nitwit.
I've met him and I can confirm, he's a nitwit. You may hold
him in generally high regard but that opinion is far from
universal among the fly fishing folks where he lives. Many
consider him a pathetic weenie wannabe.

As for Fawn Lake all I discovered is there is no Fawn Lake.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

As for Fawn Lake all I discovered is there is no Fawn Lake.


so ... inept at discovery *and* truth.

jeff