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Ronnie wrote:
For some of the other ideas: Nature, not man, is to blame, Gore critic insists By Steve Lyttle CHARLOTTE, N.C. - One of the world's foremost meteorologists Friday called the theory that helped Al Gore win a share of the Nobel Prize "ridiculous" and the product of "people who don't understand how the atmosphere works." Rest at http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...belgray13.html for those willing to think. Listen to a lot of Limbaugh, do ya Ronnie ? "For those willing to think", that's funny. The IPCC is not some media creation foisted upon the American people by left wing loonies. They represent the vast majority of real climate scientists in the world and their consensus is the scientific consensus. I do hold the media responsible for blatant misrepresentation however because they give equal weight to the rapidly diminishing number of denier crackpots. For every blurb on a crackpot like you cite in the Seattle paper there should be, in all fairness, two or three hundred blurbs on real science. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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What's so bad about global warming? we have had for the last 20,000
years, so they will grow Oranges in N.Y. that's a good thing :-) Our planet has had the cycles since the beginning,, it has been a lot hotter than it is now. The planet is in constant change,, now we want to "stop" that change,, we like it like it is. All it will take is one really big volcano blowing it's top "again", and we will be in another Ice age. It's going to happen,, just like it has happened before, man can do nothing to stop that. As far as the CO2 problem,, there is a solution,, put it back where it came from, they have a way to do that , that is very cheep, and very fast,( seeding the southern seas with iron dust), but it is politically incorrect, the left wing wants us to stop using fossil fuels, PERIOD !!!! If we corrected the CO2 problem,, they could not force that. SO they will keep the solution in their hip pocket until it is really needed, then do it,, all is fixed. There is no reason to do it yet, that's why they haven't. -- SpecTastic Wiggle Rig, Fishing lure remote control See lure video you won't believe http://ezknot.com/videos.html |
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I don't remember ever listening to Rush Limbaugh, but I guess I
should check him out based on the way he makes liberals rant and rave. I am not surprised you call Professor William Gray, Emeritus Professor of Atmospheric Science at Colorado State University (CSU), and head of the Tropical Meteorology Project at CSU's Department of Atmospheric Sciences. a "denier crackpot." Maybe you can really cut him down and claim he listens to Rush Limbaugh, rather than consider his opinion based on years of research. I know you think anyone disagreeing with you is always wrong so why bother to think about anything someone like him has to say. There may be a big majority of people claiming global warming is man's fault. I don't remember any "denier crackpots" in the 1970s saying we were not in for a new ice age within a few years. The global cooling guys were in a huge majority. That didn't make them right. I ask you again, as a true believer - What are you doing to lower your carbon footprint? Please tell us what changes you have made in your lifestyle the past two or three years to combat your global warming? What changes are you willing to make in the next year? Ronnie http://fishing.about.com |
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Ronnie wrote:
I don't remember ever listening to Rush Limbaugh, ... You sure sound like him by suggesting that "those willing to think" will ignore the overwhelming scientific consensus of the vast majority of real scientists all over the world and believe some crackpot conspiracy theory. Is that what you call "willing to think" ? I ask you again, as a true believer - What are you doing to lower your carbon footprint? Please tell us what changes you have made in your lifestyle the past two or three years to combat your global warming? What changes are you willing to make in the next year? We no longer fly, when we have to travel we go Amtrak. As our lightbulbs burn out we're replacing them with those ugly fluorescents that look like the light over an embalming table. My wife bikes to work, I work here at the house and do the vast majority of my banking, shopping and even nighttime bar hopping on the old Schwinn. As for the future when we have to replace the Forester we're gonna go hybrid. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On Oct 16, 3:05 pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: Ronnie wrote: I don't remember ever listening to Rush Limbaugh, ... You sure sound like him by suggesting that "those willing to think" will ignore the overwhelming scientific consensus of the vast majority of real scientists all over the world and believe some crackpot conspiracy theory. Is that what you call "willing to think" ? I ask you again, as a true believer - What are you doing to lower your carbon footprint? Please tell us what changes you have made in your lifestyle the past two or three years to combat your global warming? What changes are you willing to make in the next year? We no longer fly, when we have to travel we go Amtrak. As our lightbulbs burn out we're replacing them with those ugly fluorescents that look like the light over an embalming table. My wife bikes to work, I work here at the house and do the vast majority of my banking, shopping and even nighttime bar hopping on the old Schwinn. As for the future when we have to replace the Forester we're gonna go hybrid. -- Ken Fortenberry You seem to know a lot about what Limbaugh says - you must listen to his program a lot. Good for you for actually making changes yourself rather than just expecting others to do so. Got any plans on disposing those fluorescent lights with the mercury in them? I planted 9000 pine trees last year on some land I own go I guess I can happily drive my Surburban, my 4WD truck and my 225 HP bass boat since I have offsets. Maybe I can even sell some of them to people that want to continue their lifestyles. I like to drive fast on the interstate - I am trying to get someone to set up "speed offsets" like they are doing carbon offsets. That way I can drive 20 MPH over the speed limit if I can pay someone to drive 20 MPH under the speed limit. Ronnie http://fising.about.com |
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Ronnie wrote:
I ask you again, as a true believer - What are you doing to lower your carbon footprint? Please tell us what changes you have made in your lifestyle the past two or three years to combat your global warming? What changes are you willing to make in the next year? I don't have a carbon foot print myself,, I keep the floor swept up of all the carbon on it,, if that is all people need to do is reduce their carbon foot prints,, Wal-Mart sells brooms cheap :-) Where in the world did they come up with the term "carbon footprint"?? Talk about really blowing out of proportion a problem, it's like there is so much carbon we have expelled, it's soot all over the ground we leave foot prints in. 30 years ago it was acid rain,, well "I" fixed that, yep "I" built the first ever Flu Gas desulpherization (I never could spell that) plant "that ever worked" in 1982 for the US Government,, "I" was "over" the whole project. It is now the standard world wide. by the way I have proof of this, I am not blowing any smoke (pardon the pun) up your butts. I was the project engineer at Zurn Air Systems, we built it at the Mississippi Army ammunition plant. It was the first "ever". Zurn hired me as the scape goat, they got the bid, but thought it would never work, as other companies had tried, and failed, they needed someone to blame when it failed,, well it didn't fail, it actually worked from the first time we turned it on. The government used it as the model which all other plants have been built on, and have freely given the plans to all industrialized nations (the company told me with a laugh about the scape goat thing after the project was over, I thought they were kidding,, I was assured they were not :-) They really thought no one could make one work reliably enough to stay in service 99% of the time. Y'all are welcome, as acid rain "did" affect fishing I got out of air pollution control business in the late 80's, but I have been asked to get back into it just this last year (by some mega company), concerning this CO2 problem, and global warming. I guess they found my name somewhere on fixing the acid rain problem. After some research,, I saw they already had the best solution, when they ever really want to correct the problem, it's so simple, very cheap (no one is going to make billions from it, another reason it is not being done today) and very fast, in 3 years they can reduce the CO2 levels back to the levels of the 1940's, in 6 years they could get the levels back to the 1700's,, oh wait, we had a "Little Ice Age" back then, maybe we don't need to go quite that far. Of course the solution has been bad mouthed by good old Al, and his flunkies,, I mean their money would stop coming in, so would all the other funds to all the so-called experts looking at this thing, and people would stop hyping this "oil" over usage. These guys would loose the lime light they are now in,, and just fade away. What gets me the same people hyping about the oil,, are against the solution to that as well , nuclear power plants, then covert the cheap electricity to hydrogen, and run your cars on that, if they still want to use I.C.E.'s, personally I want an electric 4X4 and bass boat People, we already have the technology, it's just about politics, money, and fame. -- SpecTastic Wiggle Rig, Fishing lure remote control See lure video you won't believe http://ezknot.com/videos.html |
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