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On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:43:41 -0400, daytripper
wrote: again... Again? BWWWwwaaaaahahahahaha. Riiiiiight. I can only expect cheap shots from a cheapskate. - |
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![]() "Dave LaCourse" wrote in message ... On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:43:41 -0400, daytripper wrote: again... Again? BWWWwwaaaaahahahahaha. Riiiiiight. I can only expect cheap shots from a cheapskate. - Dave, some are just too liberal to get anything Rick |
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:57:25 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote: On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:43:41 -0400, daytripper wrote: again... Again? BWWWwwaaaaahahahahaha. Riiiiiight. I can only expect cheap shots from a cheapskate. - Rave on, Davey. Rave on. I don't care any longer. Whatever power you thought you had you have no more. So go right ahead. It's all on you now. /daytripper (I'm freeeeeeeeeeeee!) |
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:46:39 -0400, daytripper
wrote: /daytripper (I'm freeeeeeeeeeeee!) Right, free to continue with your cheap shots. If one has never served their country, he shouldn't call into question others who have not. Just a little itzy bitzy hypocritical. But, that's your way; I shouldn't expect anything less. Dave |
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Dave LaCourse wrote:
daytripper wrote: /daytripper (I'm freeeeeeeeeeeee!) Right, free to continue with your cheap shots. If one has never served their country, he shouldn't call into question others who have not. That's bull****. Cheney is responsible for the deaths and maiming of thousands of our young men and women and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis and he dodged the draft when it was his time in the barrel. And joining the military is but one way to serve your country. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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And joining the military is but one way to serve your country.
Forty, I agree with you 100%. "Serving your country" is not just signing over that blank check for your life to the government and putting on a uniform. At one time, there was a ROFFian at a clave once that was having a crisis of concience. He was a lawyer and didn't know if he was doing the right thing to server his country. I opined that as a lawyer, didn't he swear to defend the Constitution? Same thing that guys and gals in uniform do. Serving your country is teaching young people at a college, being an orderly in a nursing home, inventing some new thing that helps folks do something easier, bagging groceries, protesting injustice, building someones new home, voting. Serving your country boils down to caring. Caring about what happens to your neighbors and someone in some pest hole 10,000 miles away and then doing what you can in your own way to effect a change. Frank Reid |
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:43:42 -0000, Frank Reid
wrote: And joining the military is but one way to serve your country. Forty, I agree with you 100%. "Serving your country" is not just signing over that blank check for your life to the government and putting on a uniform. At one time, there was a ROFFian at a clave once that was having a crisis of concience. He was a lawyer and didn't know if he was doing the right thing to server his country. I opined that as a lawyer, didn't he swear to defend the Constitution? Same thing that guys and gals in uniform do. Serving your country is teaching young people at a college, being an orderly in a nursing home, inventing some new thing that helps folks do something easier, bagging groceries, protesting injustice, building someones new home, voting. Serving your country boils down to caring. Caring about what happens to your neighbors and someone in some pest hole 10,000 miles away and then doing what you can in your own way to effect a change. I'd offer that the above good deeds you mention are not really "serving your country," they are really serving its individual citizens or groups thereof - a good citizen doing things for other citizens or living up to the obligations one has as a citizen with rights. One could argue (and accurately, IMO) that doing so in the US is very close to "serving your country," but the fact remains, JFK's shtick aside, that about the only way to (proactively) "serve your country" is to serve your _country_ rather than an individual citizen or groups less than the whole. IOW, Cheney, various Bushes (both Presidents, Prescott, et all, but not Jeb, et al), Bill Clinton (but not Hillary - who, by the way, Frank, was on the Walmart board...), Bill Richardson (Sec. of Energy), John Edwards (he was clerk to a Federal judge), every _federal_ employee, etc. is/has "serving/served their country." Teachers, orderlies, construction workers, etc. are not "serving their country" by virtue of engaging in those occupations. As to lawyers, it would depend on their practice. As to serving in general, I'd offer that the US and other countries might be better off if some servers stuck to serving fries with that order and others served time... And as an aside, voting is not serving your country, it's serving oneself by exercising a right. TC, R Frank Reid |
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![]() That is all well and good, Frank. But the original argument was about serving in the military. Cheney didn't because of a student deferral (like some on roff). Perfectly legal. I have no gripe about that. Tatosian didn't because????? And I am still serving my country by serving my community with volunteer time. Dave |
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On Oct 22, 7:46 am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: And joining the military is but one way to serve your country. And quite frankly, in many cases (GWB most notably), joining the military is one way to *avoid* serving your country. Joe F. |
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In article .com,
rb608 wrote: On Oct 22, 7:46 am, Ken Fortenberry wrote: And joining the military is but one way to serve your country. And quite frankly, in many cases (GWB most notably), joining the military is one way to *avoid* serving your country. Joe F. Somehow I don't equate flying all weather interceptors as *avoiding* serving his country. This thread started with a bunch ignorance about hunting and simply slid downhill. On the bright side, I was able to recall why a couple folks were in the kill files and re-stow them in the proper place after their time had expired and reminded myself why I only check out ROFF every week or so now. |
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