VP huntin and npr program...

On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:57:25 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:43:41 -0400, daytripper
wrote:

again...

Again? BWWWwwaaaaahahahahaha. Riiiiiight.

I can only expect cheap shots from a cheapskate. -

Rave on, Davey. Rave on. I don't care any longer.
Whatever power you thought you had you have no more.

So go right ahead. It's all on you now.

/daytripper (I'm freeeeeeeeeeeee!)

On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:46:39 -0400, daytripper
wrote:

/daytripper (I'm freeeeeeeeeeeee!)

Right, free to continue with your cheap shots.

If one has never served their country, he shouldn't call into question
others who have not. Just a little itzy bitzy hypocritical. But,
that's your way; I shouldn't expect anything less.

Dave

Dave LaCourse wrote:
daytripper wrote:
/daytripper (I'm freeeeeeeeeeeee!)

Right, free to continue with your cheap shots.

If one has never served their country, he shouldn't call into question
others who have not.

That's bull****. Cheney is responsible for the deaths and
maiming of thousands of our young men and women and hundreds
of thousands of innocent Iraqis and he dodged the draft when
it was his time in the barrel.

And joining the military is but one way to serve your country.

--
Ken Fortenberry

And joining the military is but one way to serve your country.

Forty, I agree with you 100%. "Serving your country" is not just
signing over that blank check for your life to the government and
putting on a uniform. At one time, there was a ROFFian at a clave
once that was having a crisis of concience. He was a lawyer and
didn't know if he was doing the right thing to server his country. I
opined that as a lawyer, didn't he swear to defend the Constitution?
Same thing that guys and gals in uniform do.
Serving your country is teaching young people at a college, being an
orderly in a nursing home, inventing some new thing that helps folks
do something easier, bagging groceries, protesting injustice, building
someones new home, voting.
Serving your country boils down to caring. Caring about what happens
to your neighbors and someone in some pest hole 10,000 miles away and
then doing what you can in your own way to effect a change.
Frank Reid

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:43:42 -0000, Frank Reid
wrote:

And joining the military is but one way to serve your country.

Forty, I agree with you 100%. "Serving your country" is not just
signing over that blank check for your life to the government and
putting on a uniform. At one time, there was a ROFFian at a clave
once that was having a crisis of concience. He was a lawyer and
didn't know if he was doing the right thing to server his country. I
opined that as a lawyer, didn't he swear to defend the Constitution?
Same thing that guys and gals in uniform do.
Serving your country is teaching young people at a college, being an
orderly in a nursing home, inventing some new thing that helps folks
do something easier, bagging groceries, protesting injustice, building
someones new home, voting.
Serving your country boils down to caring. Caring about what happens
to your neighbors and someone in some pest hole 10,000 miles away and
then doing what you can in your own way to effect a change.

I'd offer that the above good deeds you mention are not really "serving
your country," they are really serving its individual citizens or groups
thereof - a good citizen doing things for other citizens or living up to
the obligations one has as a citizen with rights. One could argue (and
accurately, IMO) that doing so in the US is very close to "serving your
country," but the fact remains, JFK's shtick aside, that about the only
way to (proactively) "serve your country" is to serve your _country_
rather than an individual citizen or groups less than the whole. IOW,
Cheney, various Bushes (both Presidents, Prescott, et all, but not Jeb,
et al), Bill Clinton (but not Hillary - who, by the way, Frank, was on
the Walmart board...), Bill Richardson (Sec. of Energy), John Edwards
(he was clerk to a Federal judge), every _federal_ employee, etc.
is/has "serving/served their country." Teachers, orderlies,
construction workers, etc. are not "serving their country" by virtue of
engaging in those occupations. As to lawyers, it would depend on their
practice.

As to serving in general, I'd offer that the US and other countries
might be better off if some servers stuck to serving fries with that
order and others served time...

And as an aside, voting is not serving your country, it's serving
oneself by exercising a right.

TC,
R


Frank Reid

That is all well and good, Frank. But the original argument was about
serving in the military. Cheney didn't because of a student deferral
(like some on roff). Perfectly legal. I have no gripe about that.
Tatosian didn't because????? And I am still serving my country by
serving my community with volunteer time.

Dave

On Oct 22, 7:46 am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
And joining the military is but one way to serve your country.

And quite frankly, in many cases (GWB most notably), joining the
military is one way to *avoid* serving your country.

Joe F.

In article .com,
rb608 wrote:

On Oct 22, 7:46 am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
And joining the military is but one way to serve your country.

And quite frankly, in many cases (GWB most notably), joining the
military is one way to *avoid* serving your country.

Joe F.

Somehow I don't equate flying all weather interceptors as *avoiding*
serving his country. This thread started with a bunch ignorance about
hunting and simply slid downhill.

On the bright side, I was able to recall why a couple folks were in the
kill files and re-stow them in the proper place after their time had
expired and reminded myself why I only check out ROFF every week or so
now.

pugs wrote in news:gepps6702delete-
:

This thread started with a bunch ignorance about
hunting and simply slid downhill.


Oddly enough, when the thread started we didn't even know that Cheney had
been hunting at a private NY club that seems to have been flying the
Confederate flag. Probably has nothing to do with the VP's opinion on
anything, but his not coming out with a statement saying that he finds the
choice to fly such a flag in NY, of all places, less than fortunate just
shows that he couldn't give two ****s about how the common man thinks of
him.

--
Scott
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On 31 Oct 2007 00:06:48 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

pugs wrote in news:gepps6702delete-
:

This thread started with a bunch ignorance about
hunting and simply slid downhill.


Oddly enough, when the thread started we didn't even know that Cheney had
been hunting at a private NY club that seems to have been flying the
Confederate flag. Probably has nothing to do with the VP's opinion on
anything, but his not coming out with a statement saying that he finds the
choice to fly such a flag in NY, of all places, less than fortunate just
shows that he couldn't give two ****s about how the common man thinks of
him.

C'mon, Scott. Be fair.
Cheney doesn't give two ****s about *anyone* unless there's a buck in it for
him and his cronies...

/daytripper (Fair And Balanced)