VP huntin and npr program...

true, I have fished in stocked waters....can't say I like it much...maybe
that's why I always let them go...

Its kinda like sex in a whore house, yeh its "sex" but you still feel
dirty for years afterwards. Same as shopping in Walmart.

Um, Frank, just how many times have been to this whore house and
Walmart...?

Well, at least I've never been kicked out of a whore house.
http://tinyurl.com/2uvswm

Frank Reid

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:41:16 -0000, BJ Conner
attempted to troll:

On Oct 21, 2:51 pm, "asadi" wrote:
It appears the ranch Dick hunts on works in this fashion.

The birds are raised in a pen...you tell the 'guides' how many birds you
want to shoot.

You go out into the field and take up your position. The 'guide' takes the
bird into a bush and when you are ready, he let's them go...

The bird gets maybe 4 seconds of freedom . . .

I thought it was pretty sick...

john

It makes your wonder which came first the despicable hunter ethic

And another who has fished over stockers making judgments about hunting
stockers...

or the amoral politicians the state has cursed the nation with.

California? New York? Arkansas? Florida? I mean, you'll have to be
more specific...there's 50 or so to choose from...

Texas has hundreds of places where you can "hunt" Oryx, Axis deer, Elk or
anything else the can be flow in.

It does? OK, name them all.

IAC, the whole world has billions and billions of places where you can
do the same thing. In fact, I would submit that you can "hunt"
elephants, spotted owls, Cape buffalo and any other animal, vegetable or
mineral in your bathroom, just like you could fill your bathtub with
water and "fish" for marlin...

For mere money you can be taken out in a John Deer Gator and
become a real hunter. You don't even have to get your feet muddy.

Yeah, it's darned near like driving up to a stream and fishing over
stockers...

If you can't afford that then it's back to the deer lease to pop one of
those tame deer that's been eating at the deer feeder all year.

Or, well, drive up to a stream and fish over stockers...

If you don't have any morals, ethics or principles about hunting you
wouldn't have any about anything.

Would you substitute "fishing" for "hunting" in your statement above or
are you a hypocritical judgmental idiot rather than just a plain ol'
judgmental idiot? And your misusage and redundancy demonstrating your
lack of understanding of the concepts aside, it's impossible for a
hunter (or fisher) to (not) "have any morals, ethics or principles about
hunting." Just as it is possible for someone to not have "ethics or
principles about hunting," yet be ethical and have principles. In fact,
the latter is true of many folks.

HTH,
R

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:33:51 -0000, Frank Reid
wrote:

true, I have fished in stocked waters....can't say I like it much...maybe
that's why I always let them go...

Its kinda like sex in a whore house, yeh its "sex" but you still feel
dirty for years afterwards. Same as shopping in Walmart.

Um, Frank, just how many times have been to this whore house and
Walmart...?

Well, at least I've never been kicked out of a whore house.
http://tinyurl.com/2uvswm

And taking the situation as written, you were not kicked out of Walmart,
certainly not on that occasion. In fact, I'd offer that you were
notified _specifically_ that _you_, with the single condition that _you_
not _wear_ that particular shirt, were welcome, even invited, to return
to that particular store. In fact, based on what you wrote, you were
perfectly free to bring it into the store or wear it in the parking lot
or to any other Walmart, and no one else was put on notice as to their
being prohibited from wearing it at that particular store...the stated
prohibition was specific - _you_ were asked not to _wear it_ _into_
_that_ store again...maybe they thought the color of the shirt didn't
flatter your eyes in the store's lighting or something...

TC,
R

Frank Reid

And joining the military is but one way to serve your country.

Forty, I agree with you 100%. "Serving your country" is not just
signing over that blank check for your life to the government and
putting on a uniform. At one time, there was a ROFFian at a clave
once that was having a crisis of concience. He was a lawyer and
didn't know if he was doing the right thing to server his country. I
opined that as a lawyer, didn't he swear to defend the Constitution?
Same thing that guys and gals in uniform do.
Serving your country is teaching young people at a college, being an
orderly in a nursing home, inventing some new thing that helps folks
do something easier, bagging groceries, protesting injustice, building
someones new home, voting.
Serving your country boils down to caring. Caring about what happens
to your neighbors and someone in some pest hole 10,000 miles away and
then doing what you can in your own way to effect a change.
Frank Reid

On Oct 22, 8:31 am, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:33:51 -0000, Frank Reid
wrote:

true, I have fished in stocked waters....can't say I like it much...maybe
that's why I always let them go...

Its kinda like sex in a whore house, yeh its "sex" but you still feel
dirty for years afterwards. Same as shopping in Walmart.

Um, Frank, just how many times have been to this whore house and
Walmart...?

Well, at least I've never been kicked out of a whore house.
http://tinyurl.com/2uvswm

And taking the situation as written, you were not kicked out of Walmart,
certainly not on that occasion. In fact, I'd offer that you were
notified _specifically_ that _you_, with the single condition that _you_
not _wear_ that particular shirt, were welcome, even invited, to return
to that particular store. In fact, based on what you wrote, you were
perfectly free to bring it into the store or wear it in the parking lot
or to any other Walmart, and no one else was put on notice as to their
being prohibited from wearing it at that particular store...the stated
prohibition was specific - _you_ were asked not to _wear it_ _into_
_that_ store again...maybe they thought the color of the shirt didn't
flatter your eyes in the store's lighting or something...

I think they were ****ed 'cause it wasn't made in China.
Frank Reid

On Oct 22, 6:07 am, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:41:16 -0000, BJ Conner
attempted to troll:





On Oct 21, 2:51 pm, "asadi" wrote:
It appears the ranch Dick hunts on works in this fashion.

The birds are raised in a pen...you tell the 'guides' how many birds you
want to shoot.

You go out into the field and take up your position. The 'guide' takes the
bird into a bush and when you are ready, he let's them go...

The bird gets maybe 4 seconds of freedom . . .

I thought it was pretty sick...

john

It makes your wonder which came first the despicable hunter ethic

And another who has fished over stockers making judgments about hunting
stockers...

or the amoral politicians the state has cursed the nation with.

California? New York? Arkansas? Florida? I mean, you'll have to be
more specific...there's 50 or so to choose from...

Texas has hundreds of places where you can "hunt" Oryx, Axis deer, Elk or
anything else the can be flow in.

It does? OK, name them all.

IAC, the whole world has billions and billions of places where you can
do the same thing. In fact, I would submit that you can "hunt"
elephants, spotted owls, Cape buffalo and any other animal, vegetable or
mineral in your bathroom, just like you could fill your bathtub with
water and "fish" for marlin...

For mere money you can be taken out in a John Deer Gator and
become a real hunter. You don't even have to get your feet muddy.

Yeah, it's darned near like driving up to a stream and fishing over
stockers...

If you can't afford that then it's back to the deer lease to pop one of
those tame deer that's been eating at the deer feeder all year.

Or, well, drive up to a stream and fish over stockers...

If you don't have any morals, ethics or principles about hunting you
wouldn't have any about anything.

Would you substitute "fishing" for "hunting" in your statement above or
are you a hypocritical judgmental idiot rather than just a plain ol'
judgmental idiot? And your misusage and redundancy demonstrating your
lack of understanding of the concepts aside, it's impossible for a
hunter (or fisher) to (not) "have any morals, ethics or principles about
hunting." Just as it is possible for someone to not have "ethics or
principles about hunting," yet be ethical and have principles. In fact,
the latter is true of many folks.

HTH,
R- Hide quoted text -

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blab-blab -blab.
You can write on and on. It's still chicken-****. You can
rationalize for days but it still ain't hunting. It makes real
hunters look bad and no one with any pride or self esteem would take
part in it.

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:43:42 -0000, Frank Reid
wrote:

And joining the military is but one way to serve your country.

Forty, I agree with you 100%. "Serving your country" is not just
signing over that blank check for your life to the government and
putting on a uniform. At one time, there was a ROFFian at a clave
once that was having a crisis of concience. He was a lawyer and
didn't know if he was doing the right thing to server his country. I
opined that as a lawyer, didn't he swear to defend the Constitution?
Same thing that guys and gals in uniform do.
Serving your country is teaching young people at a college, being an
orderly in a nursing home, inventing some new thing that helps folks
do something easier, bagging groceries, protesting injustice, building
someones new home, voting.
Serving your country boils down to caring. Caring about what happens
to your neighbors and someone in some pest hole 10,000 miles away and
then doing what you can in your own way to effect a change.

I'd offer that the above good deeds you mention are not really "serving
your country," they are really serving its individual citizens or groups
thereof - a good citizen doing things for other citizens or living up to
the obligations one has as a citizen with rights. One could argue (and
accurately, IMO) that doing so in the US is very close to "serving your
country," but the fact remains, JFK's shtick aside, that about the only
way to (proactively) "serve your country" is to serve your _country_
rather than an individual citizen or groups less than the whole. IOW,
Cheney, various Bushes (both Presidents, Prescott, et all, but not Jeb,
et al), Bill Clinton (but not Hillary - who, by the way, Frank, was on
the Walmart board...), Bill Richardson (Sec. of Energy), John Edwards
(he was clerk to a Federal judge), every _federal_ employee, etc.
is/has "serving/served their country." Teachers, orderlies,
construction workers, etc. are not "serving their country" by virtue of
engaging in those occupations. As to lawyers, it would depend on their
practice.

As to serving in general, I'd offer that the US and other countries
might be better off if some servers stuck to serving fries with that
order and others served time...

And as an aside, voting is not serving your country, it's serving
oneself by exercising a right.

TC,
R


Frank Reid

On Oct 22, 7:46 am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
And joining the military is but one way to serve your country.

And quite frankly, in many cases (GWB most notably), joining the
military is one way to *avoid* serving your country.

Joe F.

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:11:50 -0000, BJ Conner
wrote:

On Oct 22, 6:07 am, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:41:16 -0000, BJ Conner
attempted to troll:


On Oct 21, 2:51 pm, "asadi" wrote:
It appears the ranch Dick hunts on works in this fashion.

The birds are raised in a pen...you tell the 'guides' how many birds you
want to shoot.

You go out into the field and take up your position. The 'guide' takes the
bird into a bush and when you are ready, he let's them go...

The bird gets maybe 4 seconds of freedom . . .

I thought it was pretty sick...

john

Let's recap, shall we? John apparently heard the above on NPR. Even
the casual reader should notice that nothing is said about Cheney having
done anything described, only that he hunts on the ranch on which it
_appears_ to occur. IOW, Cheney could have been in a ghillie suit on
his belly stalking lawye...er, bee, er, deer, dammit, deer while John
Kerry kitted out in his new Abercrumbie and Flinch cammies and pointing
the butt of his brand new .300WM rifle at the released birds, wondering
why his brand new scope made things look so far away, all for a photo
op. But even taking the above description and its implications as
complete and accurate, it is predicated upon the presumed shooters
hitting the bird 100% of the time. I'd enjoy reading your explanation
of how hitting a flying bird released from a holding receptacle of some
sort is so much easier than hitting a bird who happened to be loose when
he was flushed. And even the casual FFing reader should have noted that
the above description would generally fit fishing in waters with stocked
fish. In fact, I'd offer that even John's/NPR's description puts more
chance into the "hunt" than fishing in stocked waters. It's not the
method or the man I support as much as it is the hypocrisy of the
detractors I cannot and do not.


It makes your wonder which came first the despicable hunter ethic

And another who has fished over stockers making judgments about hunting
stockers...

or the amoral politicians the state has cursed the nation with.

California? New York? Arkansas? Florida? I mean, you'll have to be
more specific...there's 50 or so to choose from...

Texas has hundreds of places where you can "hunt" Oryx, Axis deer, Elk or
anything else the can be flow in.

It does? OK, name them all.

IAC, the whole world has billions and billions of places where you can
do the same thing. In fact, I would submit that you can "hunt"
elephants, spotted owls, Cape buffalo and any other animal, vegetable or
mineral in your bathroom, just like you could fill your bathtub with
water and "fish" for marlin...

For mere money you can be taken out in a John Deer Gator and
become a real hunter. You don't even have to get your feet muddy.

Yeah, it's darned near like driving up to a stream and fishing over
stockers...

If you can't afford that then it's back to the deer lease to pop one of
those tame deer that's been eating at the deer feeder all year.

Or, well, drive up to a stream and fish over stockers...

If you don't have any morals, ethics or principles about hunting you
wouldn't have any about anything.

Would you substitute "fishing" for "hunting" in your statement above or
are you a hypocritical judgmental idiot rather than just a plain ol'
judgmental idiot? And your misusage and redundancy demonstrating your
lack of understanding of the concepts aside, it's impossible for a
hunter (or fisher) to (not) "have any morals, ethics or principles about
hunting." Just as it is possible for someone to not have "ethics or
principles about hunting," yet be ethical and have principles. In fact,
the latter is true of many folks.

HTH,
R- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

blab-blab -blab.
You can write on and on. It's still chicken-****. You can
rationalize for days but it still ain't hunting. It makes real
hunters look bad and no one with any pride or self esteem would take
part in it.

Uh-huh...OK, there, Grizzly Adams...what's your definition of a "real
hunter" or fisher?

HTH,
R

wrote in news:v4dph311h1u40115ksac8j4mfo1meklfou@
4ax.com:

I'd enjoy reading your explanation
of how hitting a flying bird released from a holding receptacle of some
sort is so much easier than hitting a bird who happened to be loose when
he was flushed.

Brings to mind Mel Brooks in History of the World, when he was shooting at
peasants.

"Revolting?? They stink on ice!"

--
Scott
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