VP huntin and npr program...

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 06:46:51 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

That's bull****. Cheney is responsible for the deaths and
maiming of thousands of our young men and women and hundreds
of thousands of innocent Iraqis and he dodged the draft when
it was his time in the barrel.

Who is arguing about that

" who "had more important
things to do" when it was his chance to serve..."

Calling into mind the fact that Cheney did not serve in the military
when the poster (Tatosian) did not serve either is just a little itzy
bitzy hypocritical.

Cheney did nothing worse than many folks on this forum did. He got a
student deferral like some folks on roff. Now, if you really want to
talk about a draft dodger, Clinton is your man. He was drafted,
TWICE, and did not go.

And I doubt Tatosian has served anyone except himself all these many
years.

Dave

On Oct 22, 11:27 am, Dave LaCourse wrote:
Now, if you really want to
talk about a draft dodger, Clinton is your man. He was drafted,
TWICE, and did not go.

On Oct 22, 11:27 am, Dave LaCourse wrote:
Now, if you really want to
talk about a draft dodger, Clinton is your man.

You got that right. From many accounts Clinton raised draft dodging
to an art form using student deferments, personal connections,
manipulations, and other schemes to avoid being drafted. (and this is
an admission from someone who actually likes the guy.)

He was drafted, TWICE, and did not go.

That said, there is quite a bit of misinformation out there his
"failure to report". In fact, his first notice to report for a
physical was sent to him in England via surface mail and arrived after
the scheduled date, and a later second notice was ultimately
nullified. He did not go because he was not legally obligated to go.

Joe F.

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:20:56 -0700, rb608
wrote:

On Oct 22, 11:27 am, Dave LaCourse wrote:
Now, if you really want to
talk about a draft dodger, Clinton is your man.

You got that right. From many accounts Clinton raised draft dodging
to an art form using student deferments, personal connections,
manipulations, and other schemes to avoid being drafted. (and this is
an admission from someone who actually likes the guy.)

He was drafted, TWICE, and did not go.

That said, there is quite a bit of misinformation out there his
"failure to report". In fact, his first notice to report for a
physical was sent to him in England via surface mail and arrived after
the scheduled date, and a later second notice was ultimately
nullified. He did not go because he was not legally obligated to go.

IMO, all one has to do is read 2 letters - the one from Clinton to the
ROTC Colonel and the statement the same Colonel submitted and that was
made part of the Congressional Record (1992). While I'll grant that
just about all the "commentary" on the whole situation is blatantly
partisan one way or the other, the, um, "uncommented-upon" facts clearly
show that he was so good at dodging things he had nothing to fear in
Vietnam. The evidence indicates (but does not absolutely prove) that he
was, in fact, legally obligated to go but was saved at the last minute
by illegal interference. He (and various benefactors and dupes)
specifically, unquestionably, and with the exception of the dupes,
intentionally interfered with the process to the point that would have
been, in any other "war," prosecuted offenses.

And if you can honestly say you respect Clinton after reading Clinton's
letter and the ROTC Colonel's statement, IMO, you have no business
offering criticism on _anyone_ regarding military service or lack
thereof. When it comes to "military service," Clinton makes Bush look
like a cross between York and Murphy.

And as an aside, and again, IMO, the fact that this story and in
particular, those two documents weren't _really_ covered by the
"mainstream" media gives _substantial_ credence to bias claims. Where
was Dan Blather and company in 1992?

TC,
R

Joe F.