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"jeff" wrote in message
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riverman wrote:

In addition to getting them prepared to fish, I also will be spending
some time helping them acquire outdoor gear (most of them will be
buying their first sleeping bag), and teaching them some elementary
outdoor skills. I'm quite sure that none of them have ever gone 6
consecutive days without being under a roof. I ran a similar trip last
year (without the fishing: only canoeing and camping) and the kids
loved it.



myron - i'll donate a few bucks to help with the adventure. post a
mailing address.

What Jeff said. I figure I can send ya money to buy flies in NZ better than
I can tie certain patterns.

Op

On Oct 28, 9:33 pm, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen"
wrote:
"jeff" wrote in message

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riverman wrote:

In addition to getting them prepared to fish, I also will be spending
some time helping them acquire outdoor gear (most of them will be
buying their first sleeping bag), and teaching them some elementary
outdoor skills. I'm quite sure that none of them have ever gone 6
consecutive days without being under a roof. I ran a similar trip last
year (without the fishing: only canoeing and camping) and the kids
loved it.

myron - i'll donate a few bucks to help with the adventure. post a
mailing address.

What Jeff said. I figure I can send ya money to buy flies in NZ better than
I can tie certain patterns.

Op

How great of you guys, but I really can't accept any money, as it
probably goes against some school rules somewhere for me to accept
cash. And we're not a poor school...I just have a fixed budget that I
have to work within.

If you really want to contribute (and THANK YOU if you do), and you
don't want to tie up something really basic (even some #10 Wooly
Buggers would be completely acceptable), then you can just stop by a
fly shop and pick up something and send it. That will leave more money
in my budget for NZ flies when I get to Auckland, and they will still
have the beginnings of a basic box at this end.

I'm hearing some requests for a wish list, so okay. The kids will
probably be swinging nymphs through pools with strike indicators on,
dragging Wooly Buggers across eddy lines, and casting highly buoyant
dries to pools, so think along those lines. I'm thinking of starting
the kids off with some basics: Beaded Wooly Buggers, GRHEs, Pheasant
Tails, Elk Hair Caddises, Adamses (or some other upright dry), maybe
some Humpies. Think along the larger sizes (nymphs in the #14-16
range, dries in the #12-14 range). I know that #16 Copper Johns were
the secret weapon last time I was there, and they were slurping these
#14 BWO-like things off the top. Anything like that would be
wonderful.

There are no special packaging rules...just put them in a ziplock and
put that in an envelope and send them regular post. You are welcome to
pick flies specifically because they mail well.

Thank you for wanting to pitch in. You can send things regular post to
me at this address:
c/o HKIS
1 Red Hill Rd
Tai Tam, HK

Be sure to include your return address.

--riverman

"riverman" wrote in message
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How great of you guys, but I really can't accept any money, as it
probably goes against some school rules somewhere for me to accept
cash. And we're not a poor school...I just have a fixed budget that I
have to work within.

If you really want to contribute (and THANK YOU if you do), and you
don't want to tie up something really basic (even some #10 Wooly
Buggers would be completely acceptable), then you can just stop by a
fly shop and pick up something and send it. That will leave more money
in my budget for NZ flies when I get to Auckland, and they will still
have the beginnings of a basic box at this end.

I'm hearing some requests for a wish list, so okay. The kids will
probably be swinging nymphs through pools with strike indicators on,
dragging Wooly Buggers across eddy lines, and casting highly buoyant
dries to pools, so think along those lines. I'm thinking of starting
the kids off with some basics: Beaded Wooly Buggers, GRHEs, Pheasant
Tails, Elk Hair Caddises, Adamses (or some other upright dry), maybe
some Humpies. Think along the larger sizes (nymphs in the #14-16
range, dries in the #12-14 range). I know that #16 Copper Johns were
the secret weapon last time I was there, and they were slurping these
#14 BWO-like things off the top. Anything like that would be
wonderful.

There are no special packaging rules...just put them in a ziplock and
put that in an envelope and send them regular post. You are welcome to
pick flies specifically because they mail well.

Thank you for wanting to pitch in. You can send things regular post to
me at this address:
c/o HKIS
1 Red Hill Rd
Tai Tam, HK

Be sure to include your return address.

--riverman

Will do! I have a credit account over at Uncle Wally's place, on account
that a William Josepsh's chest pack I bought came apart the same day I
bought it :~^ ( I never collected on the return, so now is as good a time
as any.

Remind me of when this is going down, so that I make sure to get the stuff
to ya in plenty of time.

Op

riverman wrote:
Thank you for wanting to pitch in. You can send things regular post to
me at this address:
c/o HKIS
1 Red Hill Rd
Tai Tam, HK

Be sure to include your return address.

--riverman



hmmm... that address seems inadequate for some reason. hell, sending a
letter to the next county in nc requires more than that! no zip
code-like things?

also...i know your first name is myron...is riverman your last name? g
do i preface it with herr doktor?

how about llbean gift certificates?

....or, even better, troutflies.com harry, can you simply charge my
account and send flies? that might be the best roff approach...pure,
within the newsgroup, and dang good flies at a good price.

jeff

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:26:21 -0400, jeff
wrote:

.or, even better, troutflies.com harry, can you simply charge my
account and send flies? that might be the best roff approach...pure,
within the newsgroup, and dang good flies at a good price.

And, boy, do they work well! Excellent idea.

Dave

On Oct 29, 7:26 am, jeff wrote:
riverman wrote:

Thank you for wanting to pitch in. You can send things regular post to

me at this address:
c/o HKIS
1 Red Hill Rd
Tai Tam, HK

Be sure to include your return address.

--riverman

hmmm... that address seems inadequate for some reason. hell, sending a
letter to the next county in nc requires more than that! no zip
code-like things?

also...i know your first name is myron...is riverman your last name? g
do i preface it with herr doktor?

how about llbean gift certificates?

...or, even better, troutflies.com harry, can you simply charge my
account and send flies? that might be the best roff approach...pure,
within the newsgroup, and dang good flies at a good price.

jeff

Hi Jeff:
No gift certificates. Believe it or not, the school policy
specifically prohibits teachers from receiving them for any reason.
Your guess is as good as mine.

Believe it or not, that's all you need for the mailing address. You
should put my last name as "Buck". You should also write "AIRMAIL" on
the envelope on both sides, or else the post office has a little blue
sticker they'll put on themselves. The kids will be getting their gear
by the end of December, so you have about 4-6 weeks for this. Earlier
is better, as always. It will take 2 business days to get here from
anywhere in the US.

If you still feel a bit uncomfortable about the mailing address being
too short, you can expand the initials.
c/o Hong Kong International School
1 Red Hill Rd
Tai Tam, Hong Kong

There's no Zip Code, but if anyone is going through some computer that
requires one, put "00000".

--riverman

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:26:21 -0400, jeff
wrote:

riverman wrote:
Thank you for wanting to pitch in. You can send things regular post to
me at this address:
c/o HKIS
1 Red Hill Rd
Tai Tam, HK

Be sure to include your return address.

--riverman



hmmm... that address seems inadequate for some reason. hell, sending a
letter to the next county in nc requires more than that! no zip
code-like things?

also...i know your first name is myron...is riverman your last name? g
do i preface it with herr doktor?

how about llbean gift certificates?

...or, even better, troutflies.com harry, can you simply charge my
account and send flies? that might be the best roff approach...pure,
within the newsgroup, and dang good flies at a good price.

jeff


I can set up something that would offer X number of flies for Y
amount of money, Y being what would amount to my cost. I will throw in
20 boxes for the flies......
The package would take more than two days though.

if this sounds viable, let me know

On Oct 29, 9:54 am, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:26:21 -0400, jeff
wrote:





riverman wrote:
Thank you for wanting to pitch in. You can send things regular post to
me at this address:
c/o HKIS
1 Red Hill Rd
Tai Tam, HK

Be sure to include your return address.

--riverman

hmmm... that address seems inadequate for some reason. hell, sending a
letter to the next county in nc requires more than that! no zip
code-like things?

also...i know your first name is myron...is riverman your last name? g
do i preface it with herr doktor?

how about llbean gift certificates?

...or, even better, troutflies.com harry, can you simply charge my
account and send flies? that might be the best roff approach...pure,
within the newsgroup, and dang good flies at a good price.

jeff

I can set up something that would offer X number of flies for Y
amount of money, Y being what would amount to my cost. I will throw in
20 boxes for the flies......
The package would take more than two days though.

if this sounds viable, let me know- Hide quoted text -

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Harry...this is very generous of you! Your prices and quality look
excellent, and I'm glad that I'm now in a postition to start buying
from you. I'm going to amend my LLBeans order and not get any flies or
boxes from them, but channel all this through you. Are you okay with
shipping stuff overseas? I will cover all the charges.

I'm imagining setting up an account with you and sending some seed
money from here and letting any roffians who wish to contribute do so.
Then, after a couple of weeks (Mid November) you can tell me what the
balance is, and I'll create the order based on that. that would give
you several weeks before they go out, which is fine. Should I email
you privately to discuss prices, etc?

Be sure the boxes that have your shop info on them....if any of these
kids become lifetime fishermen, there's no fly shops in HK so
hopefully this will have a spinoff effect for you. :-)

If anyone would rather tie some hand-tied flies for the kids, that
would still be wonderful and very special for the kids. I think the
best way would be to have each tyer just mail them in a simple
envelope....customs shouldn't be a problem for individual envelopes,
but I worry about some overzealous customs agent getting a red flag if
a package mentioned something about feathers and fur....it might jam
up the whole works. I think a box from Harry's shop would be less
worrisome, as it's a commercial enterprise.

Mailing stuff here is really easy...not like Congo.

--riverman

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:56:51 -0700, riverman
wrote:

'm imagining setting up an account with you and sending some seed
money from here and letting any roffians who wish to contribute do so.
Then, after a couple of weeks (Mid November) you can tell me what the
balance is, and I'll create the order based on that. that would give
you several weeks before they go out, which is fine. Should I email
you privately to discuss prices, etc?

riverman...
what I have set up is coupon based. I would much rather those that
want to contribute buy the flies they would like to have sent . I am a
bit unease, for various reasons, about handling monies that are sent
directly to me without an order associated with it ... with an order,
the customer has copy of what he is expecting to have sent to NZ/HK.

The use of the special coupon will tell me that the entire order is
for your students.



remove the second n to send a reply

thanks

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On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:26:21 -0400, jeff
wrote:

...or, even better, troutflies.com harry, can you simply charge my
account and send flies? that might be the best roff approach...pure,
within the newsgroup, and dang good flies at a good price.

jeff



I can set up something that would offer X number of flies for Y
amount of money, Y being what would amount to my cost. I will throw in
20 boxes for the flies......
The package would take more than two days though.

if this sounds viable, let me know


harry - sounds great to me. but, you shouldn't absorb the loss of
profit. i'm gonna send you a check to be applied to purchase of flies,
mailing cost, etc. i prefer that you use your typical prices (which are
already very reasonable) and not use your cost. i want to do my small
part to keep you in business. is there a different mailing address i
should use to make sure you receive the check...

jeff