Woolly Bugger and Woolly Worm

Thanks for asking the question. I find a lot on how to tie the fly, but
not when and how to fish them. That's what this board is for right, to
get help from the master anglers.


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cause I felt like it.................imbecile........

What was the question?

Wolfgang

"baccala" wrote in message
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Thanks for asking the question. I find a lot on how to tie the fly, but
not when and how to fish them. That's what this board is for right, to
get help from the master anglers.


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Depending on the flie and where I think the fish are in the water column and
the color I am using...you can sweep them across current as a
streamer....let them roll with the flow kinda like a nymph....bump them
across the bottom like a sculpin or craw fish....Where are you fishing and
there 'are' a few master anglers here but I ain't one of them...

john

On Oct 27, 4:38 pm, mdk77 wrote:
On Oct 27, 2:09 pm, Denis Lamy wrote:



Wolfgang a écrit : "mdk77" wrote in message
Another newbie question (probably a stupid one too). The Woolly
Bugger and Woolly Worm seem to be so similar that I wondered if it was
silly to carry both?

Use both. They look similar but behave differently and suggest different
potential food items to the fish.

Same here, I carry both. I have some success with the bugger and trout
(weighted and small #6-10), but it seems that the crapies and smallmouth
around here prefer the worm (#2-6, weighted or not).

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Thanks Wolfgang and Denis,
After reading your posts I'm going to go ahead and try the Woolly Worm
too. I appreciate you guys taking the time to answer my question!!!

- Dave K.

I carry both as well here in Maine. The worm is the go-to fly for many
guys in the shop opening day, and I try to tie or stock as many as I
can in the spring. The worm profiles differently. The hackle in the
worm patterns are usually bigger than the bugger hackles, and wiggle
or flow more in the water.
As mentioned before in this thread, the bugger looks like a different
forage and is most commonly tied with a similar or identical tail
color. I think the red wool on the worm tail is sometimes just enough
attraction to hungry spring fish to trigger a strike when the bugger
fails.

Lloyd M
The Fishin' Hole
http://www.mainetackle.com

On 26 Oct, 21:35, mdk77 wrote:
Another newbie question (probably a stupid one too). The Woolly
Bugger and Woolly Worm seem to be so similar that I wondered if it was
silly to carry both? I've tied and fished the Woolly Bugger and had
success. I've never fished a Woolly Worm. It looks pretty easy to
tie, so it wouldn't be a big deal to tie some up and try them. I need
help here, what do you think?

- Dave K.

I usually carry both, but in various sizes and colours to imitate
various things. I have had a lot of trout on various woolly buggers,
and some very large Grayling as well. This is my favourite grayling
bugger;

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-on...ly_bugger.html

but it also works well for trout. A red tailed version seems to have
edge for trout though. I do use some buggers with marabou tails, but
mostly I prefer to use Arctic fox hair. It is just as mobile, but a
lot more robust.

Woolly worms work quite well for perch, which often "come short" to
marabou tailed buggers. Perch are "chasers", and will often nip at the
rear of a fly without being hooked.

The Bugger is the most versatile fly, and as others have already
pointed out may be dressed in a very large number of variations to
imitate all sorts of things.

The woolly worm is less versatile, but it does have its uses on
occasion. I like a brown version with a badger hackle, and a green
version with grizzly hackle has also been good on occasion.

There are lots of variations;
http://www.flytyingworld.com/PagesE/...rmbeadhead.htm

http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flyt...rs/part12.html

http://www.centralflies.com/woolly-b...orm-flies.html

One may use these flies as either imitators or attractors, depending
on dressing and presentation. There are hundred of variations of each.
I prefer to use imitators, and most of my buggers are dressed to
imitate some specific food item, like bullheads, damsel nymphs, and
similar things.

A weighted and clipped woolly worm in the appropriate colours makes a
very good cased caddis imitation, and can sometimes be very successful
indeed. There are some fish which specialise in feeding on such
things, and are rarely if ever caught on dry flies, or other nymphs
etc.

One could hold forth at length on the subject.

Gary Soucie has written a very good book on the subject, and there are
even a couple of my flies in it!

http://globalflyfisher.com/reviews/b...gle.php?id=105

TL
MC

May also be of interest, as it is almost certainly the forerunner of
the modern Woolly Bugger, is also actually made of wool, and is still
amazingly effective under many circumstances;

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-on...r/creeper.html

TL
MC

As one of the other posters asked about some actual fishing techniques
with these and other flies, this may be of some help;

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-on...s/set_ups.html

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-on...s/tactics.html

Of course there are a very large number of possible presentation
techniques, and they also depend on how the flies are dressed, and to
what specific end.

TL
MC