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Conan The Librarian wrote:
Just curious, what do you do to minimize changing leaders (and shortening your flyline) while at the same time keeping the knots to a minimum? I've been using the loop-to-loop with an extra length of tippet surgeon's-knotted to the leader. Realizing you're not talking to me, I'll chime in anyway. I tie new leaders onto a mono "butt end" with a blood knot. One butt end lasts for quite a few leader changes. It's basically the thick end of a new tapered leader. I attach the butt end to the flyline with either a needle knot, a nail knot, or a leader link. Loop-to-loop connections on light tackle suck, IMO. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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rw wrote:
Realizing you're not talking to me, I'll chime in anyway. I tie new leaders onto a mono "butt end" with a blood knot. One butt end lasts for quite a few leader changes. It's basically the thick end of a new tapered leader. I attach the butt end to the flyline with either a needle knot, a nail knot, or a leader link. Loop-to-loop connections on light tackle suck, IMO. By "light tackle" do you mean anything lighter than a 6-wt? 5-wt? What sorts of problems have you had with the loop-to-loop? I know that some worry about hinging, but I've never noticed a problem with that. But, I do like the idea of having a slimmer profile (I tie perfection loops as small as I possibly can, but in heavy mono they are still a bit bigger than I'd like). How long do you make your extra butt end? And do you cut off the very tip of the leader or just leave a longer butt section? (Sorry about all the butts.) Chuck Vance |
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Conan The Librarian wrote:
rw wrote: Realizing you're not talking to me, I'll chime in anyway. I tie new leaders onto a mono "butt end" with a blood knot. One butt end lasts for quite a few leader changes. It's basically the thick end of a new tapered leader. I attach the butt end to the flyline with either a needle knot, a nail knot, or a leader link. Loop-to-loop connections on light tackle suck, IMO. By "light tackle" do you mean anything lighter than a 6-wt? 5-wt? 6wt or less. What sorts of problems have you had with the loop-to-loop? It's actually more of an aesthetic thing, I guess. I don't like that big wad of mono on my leader, especially when I'm trying to make delicate presentations (and I need all the help in that regard that I can get). I know that some worry about hinging, but I've never noticed a problem with that. But, I do like the idea of having a slimmer profile (I tie perfection loops as small as I possibly can, but in heavy mono they are still a bit bigger than I'd like). How long do you make your extra butt end? It's the butt end of a tapered leader that I've nail-knotted or leader-linked onto my flyline. I'll start at maybe 18", and over time it gets shorter, of course. If I've used a leader link I don't even have to trim off any flyline to attach a new leader, but by that time the tip of the flyline is typically so worn that I'll trim it down anyway. And do you cut off the very tip of the leader or just leave a longer butt section? (Sorry about all the butts.) I'll usually start with a 9' leader and then trim it down to the butt section after it wears out. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:22:50 -0800, rw
wrote: It's actually more of an aesthetic thing, I guess. I don't like that big wad of mono on my leader, Try tying a small perfection loop instead of a bow. g -- Charlie... |
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Charlie Choc wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:22:50 -0800, rw wrote: It's actually more of an aesthetic thing, I guess. I don't like that big wad of mono on my leader, Try tying a small perfection loop instead of a bow. g No matter how small you tie your loop, there's going to be a section of doubled-up mono. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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rw wrote in
m: Charlie Choc wrote: On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:22:50 -0800, rw wrote: It's actually more of an aesthetic thing, I guess. I don't like that big wad of mono on my leader, Try tying a small perfection loop instead of a bow. g No matter how small you tie your loop, there's going to be a section of doubled-up mono. That doubled up mono is right on top of your fly line, at least if you're using a braided connector. It's only slightly less stealthy than the flyline itself. Your fly is nine feet away from that, or maybe even 12 if the situation merits that. I can think of plenty of reasons why I don't catch fish, and insufficient stealth is probably one of them, but I haven't gotten around to blaming my leader loop for it. Scott |
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![]() "Scott Seidman" wrote... rw wrote: Charlie Choc wrote: rw wrote: It's actually more of an aesthetic thing, I guess. I don't like that big wad of mono on my leader, Try tying a small perfection loop instead of a bow. g No matter how small you tie your loop, there's going to be a section of doubled-up mono. That doubled up mono is right on top of your fly line, at least if you're using a braided connector. It's only slightly less stealthy than the flyline itself. Your fly is nine feet away from that, or maybe even 12 if the situation merits that. I can think of plenty of reasons why I don't catch fish, and insufficient stealth is probably one of them, but I haven't gotten around to blaming my leader loop for it. Stealth, to me, is recovering the fly without shaking the tree too much. -- TL, Tim ------------------------ http://css.sbcma.com/timj |
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:46:47 -0800, rw
wrote: No matter how small you tie your loop, there's going to be a section of doubled-up mono. I know, I was just laughing at the "big wad" description. -- Charlie... |
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