Nymph Identification

Well I ventured out to the Flatbrook River for the third weekend in a
row in an attempt to catch a trout. Started off the day with a #16
GRHE and then a #16 PT without as much as a hit. Since the fishing
wasn't going so well, I seined a few nymphs in an attempt to get a
better idea of what the trout may be feeding on. I identified cased
caddis, a brownish-yellow mayfly nymph, helgramites and then I got a
bit confused:

Two bugs in my collection I could not identifiy. I thought the first
might be a yellow stonefly as it had six legs, two large appendages
(like antennae) off it's rear, two large appendages (like antennae)
coming off it's head and was a brownish-tan color. It looked very
similar to the mayfly nymph, but the mayfly had swimmerettes on its
side and didn't move much, but what I thought was the stonefly,
actively crawled around the jar. The second nymph was nothing more
than a small (3/4 inch) off white worm with one tiny brown appendage
coming off its rear and two tiny white appendages coming off its head
region.

I realize it's hard to identify based on descriptions but I thought
someone might have a clue. In addition, if anyone knows of any guide
books that contain descriptions and pictures of aquatic insects i would
be more than happy to pick one up.

Lastly, as far as the fishing went, I struck out again. I saw a few
trout this time but I think I spooked them right off the bat. Also, my
girlfriend and I had a bear walk right up on us within 50 yards. That
was more for her to handle and kept her in the truck the rest of the
day. All in all any interesting day but I hope I can start catching
some fish soon. Thanks guys.


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You could try to get a copy of Schweibert's "Nymphs" which has some
excellent large drawings by the author. Check Amazon or one of the
other on-line book stores.

Good luck


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pmjasper;97578 Wrote:
I realize it's hard to identify based on descriptions but I thought
someone might have a clue. In addition, if anyone knows of any guide
books that contain descriptions and pictures of aquatic insects i would
be more than happy to pick one up.

You might want to check out http://tinyurl.com/2r6qok. Jason Neuswanger
has a fantastic database of trout food of all sorts in all stages of
life. You'll find excellent quality magnified photos along with hatch
information. It's a really good resource for a fly fisher.

You'll also find some of the best stream and fishing related photos
online.


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The white worm-like critter sounds an awful lot like a cranefly larvae
to me, but I couldn't be sure without a picture. You gotta describe
the nymph better. That description basically encompasses every mayfly
and stonefly nymph out there. hahaha.


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I'll try to look them up in a book if I have a chance. The white
worm-like creature was just like I explained...not much to it but it
was very mobile crawling all around the container and when raised off
of the bottom it gyrated like crazy. It also made it half way into a
caddis case which I thought was interesting.

I realize it is very hard to identify something you can't see with your
own eyes, that is why I'll see if I can find a book that has actual
photos of aquatic insects. At least I could identify the helgramittes,
which I was surprised there were so many in the Flatbrook.


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pmjasper;97639 Wrote:
I'll see if I can find a book that has actual photos of aquatic
insects. At least I could identify

PMJ:

*Hatch Guide for New England Streams* by *Thomas Ames, Jr.* is perhaps
the best book out there.

If you get a chance to thumb through it at a library or book store you
will see he provides a photo of the nymph on the left page and fly
patterns to mimic it on the right page.

'Hatch Guide' (http://tinyurl.com/36ef6t)

I am surprised that the book hasn't received more acclaim that it has.

Good luck.

AKS


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AKS, does that contain nymphs as well as adults? I see a lot of books
out there that have pictures of adults for the dry fly fisherman, but
not necessarily nymphs.


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PMJ

Sorry, I should have spent a little more time in my book description,
but the book is at home which is why I just added a link.

Yes, it covers nymphs. The photos are all in colour.

When I get home I will take the book from its place of rest, review it
and if there is some added point I wish to pass along, I will.

Again, if I could only grab a single book from my home if it was on
fire, it would be this book.

Well worth the small cost for this book.

AKS


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pmjasper;97578 Wrote:
The second nymph was nothing more than a small (3/4 inch) off white worm
with one tiny brown appendage coming off its rear and two tiny white
appendages coming off its head region.

Example and excerpt for the book.
Without seeing a photo of the nymph.. this is close but I don't think
it was the one you asked about.

Hatch Guide for New England Streams Caddisflies (Order Trichoptera)

Page 154.
Saddle Case Maker - Larva
"-Glossosoma -larvae, know as saddle cases, resemble those of several
fall-hatching pebble case builders."
Page 155
"As if by pre-arrangement, -Glossosoma- larvae engage in a coordinated
migration during which, having outgrown their shelters.."

Recommended patterns.

USD Cream Caddis Larvae, Brassie, Pink Caddis Hook sizes 16-20


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Thanks Ak. Looks somewhat similar but I didn't notice any legs on the
insect. It looked similar to an elogated maggot but I too thought it
was some species of caddisfly.


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