Pike traces

In article , Gandalf
wrote:
Going to get the trace kits tomorrow as I am off for a days dedicated pike
fishing on Thursday. I think I will use a smelt or herring rather than bread
though.(;-) Basically I will be buying enough to make 10 traces and spending
£15 and I will not need more than ten traces this winter as pikeing will be
done every other week I think.

Enough to prove your technique and even to experiment a little, good idea.

One trace you can't buy is a weighted sink and draw special - a 1oz bomb on
the end, a strong single about 1" uptrace from it, a couple of trebles
spaced according to the size of bait and an added twist wire loop above that.
The trace needs to be a little longer than the conventional snap. In this
case trebles are still probably best but I may experiment one day.

In use put the bomb in the mouth of your deadbait and stitch the mouth
closed with the single, bring the trace pack along the bait impaling at
strategic points and then tie the wire to the tail with the twist loop.
Cast the bait and it dives head first, wait half a minute, draw back to the
surface and let it dive again .. and again. The action mimics a disabled
but living fish so unlike static deadbaits pike take hard and you can strike
relatively quickly knowing the hooks are in the right place.

Don't use this with herring or mackerel - too soft. Scad, sand smelt or a
dead roach are tougher.

I am going to travel light so I can move round giving it half an hour in
each swim. I have seen several pike into double figures in about 5 swims so
I will have.

The best 'groundbait' for a pike is a keepnet full of silver fish...

floatfished on #8 hooks tied direct to 4lb reel line...

I have had trout on floating bread before, as a kid we used to float a bit

Sorry, maybe I wasn't too clear: floatfished - ie. under a float, rather
than floating on the surface (though floating crust is a favourite bait
of mine) - in this case a small quill carrying 6bb - a group and one bb as
a telltale. I don't thing anyone else had much, most were sitting at slow,
deep swims and I had all mine in streamy water under 3' deep.

of crust under the old road bridge in Cricklade. It used to hammer through
and then float in an eddy on the other side where it would be taken by
almost anything that happened to be there. Great fun trying to pull it back
through a mass of water doing 60 miles an hour as well. A 3 lb chub seemed
more like a 20 lb pike.

g

Cheerio,

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" One trace you can't buy is a weighted sink and draw special "

Good timing Derek, I was looking at that last night as looking at all the
lures and my past failures lure fishing I was thinking more along sink and
draw with a dead bait. In the old days I used to tie the bait to the trace
at point up the body. I did not do loads of pike fishing back then and did
not give it or lure fishing much of chance going, instead, for static dead
baits under a bung or on a lead. You could say I am a born again piking
virgin really.

With sink and draw I can do both I think just by letting the bait lie for
awhile if my arms start to ache ( due to my damn illness ) so I got the best
of both worlds but I will strike early it is taken on a rest period. I would
rather loose a fish than deep hook it.

I will let you know how it all goes on Thursday

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Gandalf

"Derek Moody" wrote in message
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In article , Gandalf
wrote:
Going to get the trace kits tomorrow as I am off for a days dedicated
pike
fishing on Thursday. I think I will use a smelt or herring rather than
bread
though.(;-) Basically I will be buying enough to make 10 traces and
spending
£15 and I will not need more than ten traces this winter as pikeing will
be
done every other week I think.

Enough to prove your technique and even to experiment a little, good idea.

One trace you can't buy is a weighted sink and draw special - a 1oz bomb
on
the end, a strong single about 1" uptrace from it, a couple of trebles
spaced according to the size of bait and an added twist wire loop above
that.
The trace needs to be a little longer than the conventional snap. In this
case trebles are still probably best but I may experiment one day.

Reason is that my son would like to have a go at Pike fish fishing, he only once every other year. Anyway, cut long story short, he is 4 hooked. Lost in the net first, thought of a number 2 dead bait, but only about 7 pounds so there is no great. 3 is a large, hooked him before he was brought under control, but 4 is a real gem.

To track the package along the bait piercing.Strategic points, and then reversing the loop tie wire tail.Casting bait, diving head first, so half a minute, draw back.Water table, it again .. and again. Mimic the action of persons with disabilities.

Hi Derek,

Made my first trace tonight,needed magnifying glass to get the trace through
the crimps and did not realise how much force those damn things needed, mind
you I had to use long nose pliers as my normal pliers had a wide nose.

Looks good and I tested the crimp as best I could without problem, well
without problem to the crimp or hooks but not so for my fingers. So clumsy
and blind ten.VBG

Just got to test it on some un-expecting pike a couple of days.

--
Gandalf

"Derek Moody" wrote in message
...
In article , Gandalf
wrote:
Going to get the trace kits tomorrow as I am off for a days dedicated
pike
fishing on Thursday. I think I will use a smelt or herring rather than
bread
though.(;-) Basically I will be buying enough to make 10 traces and
spending
£15 and I will not need more than ten traces this winter as pikeing will
be
done every other week I think.

Enough to prove your technique and even to experiment a little, good idea.

One trace you can't buy is a weighted sink and draw special - a 1oz bomb
on
the end, a strong single about 1" uptrace from it, a couple of trebles
spaced according to the size of bait and an added twist wire loop above
that.
The trace needs to be a little longer than the conventional snap. In this
case trebles are still probably best but I may experiment one day.

In use put the bomb in the mouth of your deadbait and stitch the mouth
closed with the single, bring the trace pack along the bait impaling at
strategic points and then tie the wire to the tail with the twist loop.
Cast the bait and it dives head first, wait half a minute, draw back to
the
surface and let it dive again .. and again. The action mimics a disabled
but living fish so unlike static deadbaits pike take hard and you can
strike
relatively quickly knowing the hooks are in the right place.

Don't use this with herring or mackerel - too soft. Scad, sand smelt or a
dead roach are tougher.

I am going to travel light so I can move round giving it half an hour in
each swim. I have seen several pike into double figures in about 5 swims
so
I will have.

The best 'groundbait' for a pike is a keepnet full of silver fish...

floatfished on #8 hooks tied direct to 4lb reel line...

I have had trout on floating bread before, as a kid we used to float a
bit

Sorry, maybe I wasn't too clear: floatfished - ie. under a float, rather
than floating on the surface (though floating crust is a favourite bait
of mine) - in this case a small quill carrying 6bb - a group and one bb as
a telltale. I don't thing anyone else had much, most were sitting at
slow,
deep swims and I had all mine in streamy water under 3' deep.

of crust under the old road bridge in Cricklade. It used to hammer
through
and then float in an eddy on the other side where it would be taken by
almost anything that happened to be there. Great fun trying to pull it
back
through a mass of water doing 60 miles an hour as well. A 3 lb chub
seemed
more like a 20 lb pike.

g

Cheerio,

--
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Writing: http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/
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http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/