straightening leaders

My philosophy is empiricism and utilitarianism. IOW, check it out and
whatever works.

To that end, I searched out the gnarliest old Rio leader I could find,
took it from the package, and immersed it in hot (not boiling) water. It
straightened out just fine, tippet and all. It didn't seem to be
weakened in any obvious way, although I didn't actually test the
breaking point.

I'm not likely to do this as a matter of habit because I can straighten
them streamside with my fingers or with a piece of leather. But it
worked. It worked just fine.

I know that Connor can be irritating with his didactic, know-it-all
attitude, but this **** is ridiculous.

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On Nov 15, 1:53 pm, rw wrote:
My philosophy is empiricism and utilitarianism. IOW, check it out and
whatever works.

To that end, I searched out the gnarliest old Rio leader I could find,
took it from the package, and immersed it in hot (not boiling) water. It
straightened out just fine, tippet and all. It didn't seem to be
weakened in any obvious way, although I didn't actually test the
breaking point.

I'm not likely to do this as a matter of habit because I can straighten
them streamside with my fingers or with a piece of leather. But it
worked. It worked just fine.

I know that Connor can be irritating with his didactic, know-it-all
attitude, but this **** is ridiculous.

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That doesn't surprise me. Doesn't a leader straightener work by
generating enough friction to heat up the leader?

Does this work with fly line also? Some of my SA lines are ALL
spirally, and I've tried all sorts of ways to straighten them.

--riverman

On Nov 15, 1:53 pm, rw wrote:
My philosophy is empiricism and utilitarianism. IOW, check it out and
whatever works.

To that end, I searched out the gnarliest old Rio leader I could find,
took it from the package, and immersed it in hot (not boiling) water. It
straightened out just fine, tippet and all. It didn't seem to be
weakened in any obvious way, although I didn't actually test the
breaking point.

I'm not likely to do this as a matter of habit because I can straighten
them streamside with my fingers or with a piece of leather. But it
worked. It worked just fine.

I know that Connor can be irritating with his didactic, know-it-all
attitude, but this **** is ridiculous.

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Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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Mike's not the only one to do it.
--riverman

rw wrote:
My philosophy is empiricism and utilitarianism. IOW, check it out and
whatever works.

To that end, I searched out the gnarliest old Rio leader I could find,
took it from the package, and immersed it in hot (not boiling) water. It
straightened out just fine, tippet and all. It didn't seem to be
weakened in any obvious way, although I didn't actually test the
breaking point. ...

I didn't hear anyone argue that immersion in hot water wouldn't
straighten a leader. All of roff agrees, you can straighten a
nylon monofilament leader by immersing it in hot water.

It's a bad idea and bad advice and I wouldn't trust the leader
itself or the knots made with it, but it'll be straight, no doubt.

--
Ken Fortenberry

rw wrote in news:473bdb74$0$24709
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My philosophy is empiricism and utilitarianism. IOW, check it out and
whatever works.


Utilitarianism through the use of resources you don't need.


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On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:04:41 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

rw wrote:
My philosophy is empiricism and utilitarianism. IOW, check it out and
whatever works.

To that end, I searched out the gnarliest old Rio leader I could find,
took it from the package, and immersed it in hot (not boiling) water. It
straightened out just fine, tippet and all. It didn't seem to be
weakened in any obvious way, although I didn't actually test the
breaking point. ...

I didn't hear anyone argue that immersion in hot water wouldn't
straighten a leader. All of roff agrees, you can straighten a
nylon monofilament leader by immersing it in hot water.

It's a bad idea and bad advice and I wouldn't trust the leader
itself or the knots made with it, but it'll be straight, no doubt.

Plus the coiled memory will return as soon as you store the leader on
your reel, or coild it and put it back in the package and into your
vest.

It is the same when you remove the memory the old fashion way - with
your fingers. As soon as you wind up that leader on your reel, store
it for a short period, the coiled memory returns, but it is never as
bad as when the leader was brand new.

If placing a leader in hot water before use was a practical solution
to the coiled memory, I am sure the manufacturers would have
recommended it by now. It is a neat trick, but one that is not needed
if you have two hands and know the proper way of releasing the memory.

Scott Seidman wrote:
rw wrote in news:473bdb74$0$24709
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My philosophy is empiricism and utilitarianism. IOW, check it out and
whatever works.



Utilitarianism through the use of resources you don't need.



What is that supposed to mean?

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rw wrote in news:473c4d4c$0$32375
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What is that supposed to mean?

Just that is seems silly to pull out gear for something that takes all of
20 seconds to do by hand, and that hardly seems utilitarian.


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Scott Seidman wrote:
rw wrote in news:473c4d4c$0$32375
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What is that supposed to mean?


Just that is seems silly to pull out gear for something that takes all of
20 seconds to do by hand, and that hardly seems utilitarian.

Evidently you missed the "empiricism" part. I didn't need a straight
leader -- the fishing around here over. What I needed was to satisfy my
curiosity.

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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
rw wrote:

My philosophy is empiricism and utilitarianism. IOW, check it out and
whatever works.

To that end, I searched out the gnarliest old Rio leader I could find,
took it from the package, and immersed it in hot (not boiling) water.
It straightened out just fine, tippet and all. It didn't seem to be
weakened in any obvious way, although I didn't actually test the
breaking point. ...


I didn't hear anyone argue that immersion in hot water wouldn't
straighten a leader. All of roff agrees, you can straighten a
nylon monofilament leader by immersing it in hot water.

It's a bad idea and bad advice and I wouldn't trust the leader
itself or the knots made with it, but it'll be straight, no doubt.

It appears to be a perfectly fine leader, just like one straightened by
hand, only straighter.

This "bad advice" crap is hilarious. It's clear that all you and
LaCourse are interested in is discrediting Connor by any means possible,
fair or foul. You're acting like petulant children.

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