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On Nov 26, 11:05 am, rw wrote:
Nothing seems to be stopping you.

Au contraire, mon frere. I've been quite restrained, if I do say so
myself; and I have not, to the best of my recollection, taken sides
with any participant against another.

Joe F.

On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:11:26 -0500, daytripper
wrote:
as I haven't seen anything below 87 octane in decades.

Go west, DT. g At high altitudes, at least in WY, MT and UT, 85 octane is
pretty common.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com

"rb608" wrote in message
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On Nov 26, 10:05 am, rw wrote:
When LaCourse posts his bull**** here it becomes everyone's business.

This sort of imprecision is a good generic example of statements that
lead to these flame wars. In that one sentence are so many
opportunities for misinterpretation (not the least of which are myriad
differing meanings and implications of "bull****"), it's no wonder
things spiral away so quickly when one poster comments on one
interpretation when the other poster meant something else entirely.
IME, ROFF does not lend itself to subtleties. Other people pile on to
one black or white interpretation or the other; and before you know
it, everyone is shouting; but nobody's listening or even looking for
the gray.

Of course, I think I probably know what you meant by your statement,
but I've been here a while. Most here do not share the proper context
and are too eager to impart their personal inferences. As for
anything being everyone's business, I disagree. Yes, an open forum
makes everything and anything available for public comment; but that
does not mean everyone should.

All of which is eminently sensible.....except for the implicit (and often
explicitly stated) assumption that the problem is caused by, or at least
almost invariably exacerbated by, inherent limitations in a text based
medium. This is simply not the case. Insofar as ROFF lacks subtlety
(usually, if not quite always, the case), it is by no means by virtue of
deficiencies or inadequacy in the written language per se. Certainly, there
are visual and audible cues in the spoken language that are not available in
written communications (emoticons notwithstanding), but the compensatory
resources available in the latter are vast and exquisitely evolved. I think
I hardly need to go into a detailed description or even a list of great
works of literature for you to agree to this much.

Unfortunately, this leaves us with a highly restricted set of viable
optional explanations for what routinely occurs here......a list that is
hard to reconcile with a belief in widespread good faith, good intentions,
and good reading/writing skills......or even a justifiable hope therefor.


Wolfgang
sitting on a park bench......

On Nov 26, 10:02 am, "Tim J."
wrote:
You're much more patient

You misspelled verbose. :-)

Joe F.

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On 25-Nov-2007, wrote:

I no longer debate Iraq w fools
Its like Vietnam
Either you are part of the problem or part of the solution
**** you Lacourse!

Fred

And the horse that you rode in on!


You my friend are a liberal piece of ****.. Any draft dodger should be
taken out back and promptly shot for treason.. I don't care who you
are...Like it or not, Iraq was needed in many ways and in some no, But it
was not the president that made the decision alone to go there.. You seem to
forget all in congress that allowed him to be able to do it. Like him or
not, right or wrong, he had the support to do it. It is done and we are
there, deal with it suck it up and shut the hell up and be part of the
solution not more of the problem you dumb ignorant piece of liberalism
scum..

As for Dave and every one else fighinting, who cares, it is between them..
Where you there, did you listen to everything first hand? No??? good shut up
and let them deal with it.. Dont add more to.

Idiot

Rick

On Nov 26, 12:45 pm, "Rick" lanr-at-centurytel.net wrote:
You my friend are a liberal piece of ****..

Just a hunch, but I'm guessing that for you, that's a redundancy.

Any draft dodger should be
taken out back and promptly shot for treason.. I don't care who you
are...

Are you including those who intentionally avoided being drafted
through entirely legal means? 'Cause if so, methinks the Vice
President's office may want to speak with you. :-( If you mean
those who fled the country to avoid induction, well, the President
pardoned them 30 years ago, so as you said, "Like him or not, right or
wrong, he had the support to do it. It is done and we are there, deal
with it suck it up and shut the hell up."


Like it or not, Iraq was needed in many ways

Really? Name one that's unrelated to obscene profits for petroleum
interests or defense contractors.

On Nov 26, 11:37 am, "Wolfgang" wrote:
damn, I like the way you write snipped

but the compensatory
resources available in the latter are vast and exquisitely evolved.

True; but alas, not equally or universally amongst those here.

Joe F.

"Rick" lanr-at-centurytel.net wrote in message
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wrote in message
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On 25-Nov-2007, wrote:

I no longer debate Iraq w fools
Its like Vietnam
Either you are part of the problem or part of the solution
**** you Lacourse!

Fred

And the horse that you rode in on!


You my friend are a liberal piece of ****.. Any draft dodger should be
taken out back and promptly shot for treason.. I don't care who you
are...Like it or not, Iraq was needed in many ways and in some no, But it
was not the president that made the decision alone to go there.. You seem
to
forget all in congress that allowed him to be able to do it. Like him or
not, right or wrong, he had the support to do it. It is done and we are
there, deal with it suck it up and shut the hell up and be part of the
solution not more of the problem you dumb ignorant piece of liberalism
scum..

As for Dave and every one else fighinting, who cares, it is between them..
Where you there, did you listen to everything first hand? No??? good shut
up
and let them deal with it.. Dont add more to.

Idiot

Rick

Imbecile.

Wolfgang

On Nov 26, 9:45 am, "Rick" lanr-at-centurytel.net wrote:
wrote in message

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On 25-Nov-2007, wrote:

I no longer debate Iraq w fools
Its like Vietnam
Either you are part of the problem or part of the solution
**** you Lacourse!

Fred

And the horse that you rode in on!

You my friend are a liberal piece of ****.. Any draft dodger should be
taken out back and promptly shot for treason.. I don't care who you
are...Like it or not, Iraq was needed in many ways and in some no, But it
was not the president that made the decision alone to go there.. You seem to
forget all in congress that allowed him to be able to do it. Like him or
not, right or wrong, he had the support to do it. It is done and we are
there, deal with it suck it up and shut the hell up and be part of the
solution not more of the problem you dumb ignorant piece of liberalism
scum..

As for Dave and every one else fighinting, who cares, it is between them..
Where you there, did you listen to everything first hand? No??? good shut up
and let them deal with it.. Dont add more to.

Idiot

Rick

"Any draft dodger should be
taken out back and promptly shot for treason.. I don't care who you
are."
Start with these.
http://www.angelfire.com/ok5/pearly/...p-pansies.html

"rb608" wrote in message
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On Nov 26, 11:37 am, "Wolfgang" wrote:
damn, I like the way you write snipped

but the compensatory
resources available in the latter are vast and exquisitely evolved.

True; but alas, not equally or universally amongst those here.

Also true. However, I have a hard time believing that a certain clarity of
expression and minimally penetrating analysis are out of reach for most due
to a lack of native ability. The root cause, I maintain, is a lack of
effort grounded in indifference to truth and basic decency.

On the other hand, maybe what I assume to be your position is right. Maybe
only you, me, and a small handful of others in this assemblage are capable
of grasping anything as abstruse and convoluted as what we're discussing
here.

Wolfgang