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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Mike wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: Total nonsense. Unfortunately, unlike AFTM line ratings (which correspond directly to the weight of the first 30 feet of the line), the rating of fly rods is subjective. It may be subjective and you may not agree with it but fly rods are rated by the manufacturer to correspond with AFTMA line ratings. To claim there is no rating is total nonsense. You're just trying to stir up trouble. It's so obvious. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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rw wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote: It may be subjective and you may not agree with it but fly rods are rated by the manufacturer to correspond with AFTMA line ratings. To claim there is no rating is total nonsense. You're just trying to stir up trouble. It's so obvious. Have you ever bought a fly rod that was rated incorrectly by the manufacturer ? -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On 6 Dec, 01:40, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: Have you ever bought a fly rod that was rated incorrectly by the manufacturer ? -- Ken Fortenberry The point is, that nobody has ever bought one which was "correctly" rated, because there is no correct rating. The ONLY defined standard is for fly-lines. There is NO defined rating for rods. ANY so-called AFTM ratings on rods are purely subjective. MC |
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Mike wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote: Have you ever bought a fly rod that was rated incorrectly by the manufacturer ? The point is, that nobody has ever bought one which was "correctly" rated, because there is no correct rating. More total nonsense. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On 6 Dec, 05:01, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: Mike wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: Have you ever bought a fly rod that was rated incorrectly by the manufacturer ? The point is, that nobody has ever bought one which was "correctly" rated, because there is no correct rating. More total nonsense. -- Ken Fortenberry So you keep saying. The AFTM rating for a #6 weight line states that the first thirty feet of line, ( excluding the level tip if present) must weigh 160 grains +/- 8 grains tolerance Could you tell me how you would rate a #6 weight rod? MC |
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Mike wrote:
Could you tell me how you would rate a #6 weight rod? To be fair, there are objective ratings and subjective ratings. People rate movies and TV shows and fly rods, but not in the relatively objective way that fly lines are rated. The difference is semantic. Fortenberry is trying to pull your string. Don't fall for it. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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On 6 Dec, 05:34, rw wrote:
Mike wrote: Could you tell me how you would rate a #6 weight rod? To be fair, there are objective ratings and subjective ratings. People rate movies and TV shows and fly rods, but not in the relatively objective way that fly lines are rated. The difference is semantic. Fortenberry is trying to pull your string. Don't fall for it. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. I donīt think so, he just refuses to grasp the matter. He can no longer "pull my string" as you put it. Also, I am not making the point for him, but for people who might be interested. In this case the difference is not semantic. The AFTM rating is an absolutely concrete objective physical definition for any given line. There is no AFTM definition for any given rod, there never has been, and there never will be. The rating of any fly rod is entirely subjective, and it has nothing at all to do with the AFTM standards. TL MC |
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Mike wrote:
On 6 Dec, 05:01, Ken Fortenberry wrote: Mike wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: Have you ever bought a fly rod that was rated incorrectly by the manufacturer ? The point is, that nobody has ever bought one which was "correctly" rated, because there is no correct rating. More total nonsense. So you keep saying. The AFTM rating for a #6 weight line states that the first thirty feet of line, ( excluding the level tip if present) must weigh 160 grains +/- 8 grains tolerance Could you tell me how you would rate a #6 weight rod? Me ? I'd just look at what the manufacturer wrote on it. If it said 6wt, I'd rate it a 6wt. There is no conspiracy afoot to fool the consumer and one doesn't need a slide rule or a set of shooting heads to determine which fly line to put on a fly rod. In the vast majority of cases the manufacturer has correctly determined the properly matching fly line, 100% of the time in my experience. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On 6 Dec, 05:01, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: Mike wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: Have you ever bought a fly rod that was rated incorrectly by the manufacturer ? The point is, that nobody has ever bought one which was "correctly" rated, because there is no correct rating. More total nonsense. -- Ken Fortenberry AFTM rating states that the first thirty feet of a #6 line must weigh 160 grains +/- 8 grains tolerance. What is the rating of a #6 rod? MC |
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![]() "Mike" wrote in message ... What is the rating of a #6 rod? #6. Wolfgang |
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