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Old December 6th, 2007, 12:23 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Mike wrote:

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Total nonsense.



Unfortunately, unlike AFTM line ratings (which correspond directly to
the weight of the first 30 feet of the line), the rating of fly rods
is subjective.



It may be subjective and you may not agree with it but fly
rods are rated by the manufacturer to correspond with AFTMA
line ratings. To claim there is no rating is total nonsense.


You're just trying to stir up trouble. It's so obvious.

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Old December 6th, 2007, 12:40 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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rw wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
It may be subjective and you may not agree with it but fly
rods are rated by the manufacturer to correspond with AFTMA
line ratings. To claim there is no rating is total nonsense.


You're just trying to stir up trouble. It's so obvious.


Have you ever bought a fly rod that was rated incorrectly
by the manufacturer ?

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Old December 6th, 2007, 12:52 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default DT Fly line for a slower action rod.

On 6 Dec, 01:40, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Have you ever bought a fly rod that was rated incorrectly
by the manufacturer ?

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The point is, that nobody has ever bought one which was "correctly"
rated, because there is no correct rating.

The ONLY defined standard is for fly-lines. There is NO defined
rating for rods. ANY so-called AFTM ratings on rods are purely
subjective.

MC
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Old December 6th, 2007, 04:01 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Mike wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Have you ever bought a fly rod that was rated incorrectly
by the manufacturer ?


The point is, that nobody has ever bought one which was "correctly"
rated, because there is no correct rating.


More total nonsense.

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Ken Fortenberry
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Old December 6th, 2007, 04:22 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default DT Fly line for a slower action rod.

On 6 Dec, 05:01, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Mike wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Have you ever bought a fly rod that was rated incorrectly
by the manufacturer ?


The point is, that nobody has ever bought one which was "correctly"
rated, because there is no correct rating.


More total nonsense.

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Ken Fortenberry


So you keep saying.

The AFTM rating for a #6 weight line states that the first thirty feet
of line, ( excluding the level tip if present) must weigh 160 grains
+/- 8 grains tolerance

Could you tell me how you would rate a #6 weight rod?

MC
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Old December 6th, 2007, 04:34 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Mike wrote:

Could you tell me how you would rate a #6 weight rod?


To be fair, there are objective ratings and subjective ratings. People
rate movies and TV shows and fly rods, but not in the relatively
objective way that fly lines are rated. The difference is semantic.

Fortenberry is trying to pull your string. Don't fall for it.

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Old December 6th, 2007, 04:44 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On 6 Dec, 05:34, rw wrote:
Mike wrote:

Could you tell me how you would rate a #6 weight rod?


To be fair, there are objective ratings and subjective ratings. People
rate movies and TV shows and fly rods, but not in the relatively
objective way that fly lines are rated. The difference is semantic.

Fortenberry is trying to pull your string. Don't fall for it.

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I donīt think so, he just refuses to grasp the matter. He can no
longer "pull my string" as you put it.

Also, I am not making the point for him, but for people who might be
interested.

In this case the difference is not semantic. The AFTM rating is an
absolutely concrete objective physical definition for any given line.

There is no AFTM definition for any given rod, there never has been,
and there never will be.

The rating of any fly rod is entirely subjective, and it has nothing
at all to do with the AFTM standards.

TL
MC
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Old December 6th, 2007, 01:19 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Ken Fortenberry[_2_]
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Mike wrote:
On 6 Dec, 05:01, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Mike wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Have you ever bought a fly rod that was rated incorrectly
by the manufacturer ?
The point is, that nobody has ever bought one which was "correctly"
rated, because there is no correct rating.

More total nonsense.


So you keep saying.

The AFTM rating for a #6 weight line states that the first thirty feet
of line, ( excluding the level tip if present) must weigh 160 grains
+/- 8 grains tolerance

Could you tell me how you would rate a #6 weight rod?


Me ? I'd just look at what the manufacturer wrote on it.
If it said 6wt, I'd rate it a 6wt.

There is no conspiracy afoot to fool the consumer and
one doesn't need a slide rule or a set of shooting heads
to determine which fly line to put on a fly rod. In the
vast majority of cases the manufacturer has correctly
determined the properly matching fly line, 100% of the
time in my experience.

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Old December 6th, 2007, 04:30 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Mike[_6_]
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Default DT Fly line for a slower action rod.

On 6 Dec, 05:01, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Mike wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Have you ever bought a fly rod that was rated incorrectly
by the manufacturer ?


The point is, that nobody has ever bought one which was "correctly"
rated, because there is no correct rating.


More total nonsense.

--
Ken Fortenberry


AFTM rating states that the first thirty feet of a #6 line must weigh
160 grains +/- 8 grains tolerance.

What is the rating of a #6 rod?

MC
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Old December 6th, 2007, 02:25 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Mike" wrote in message
...

What is the rating of a #6 rod?


#6.

Wolfgang


 




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