Soft Hackles

Mike wrote in news:e267f1a1-1403-4c1b-91d3-
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The whole rift between wet and dry flies is basically nothing more
than a series of misunderstandings, and also explains why virtually
nobody knows how to fish wet flies properly any more. They should be
fished as dry flies, upstream and as accurate imitations of the hatch.

Yes, that certainly is one way to fish a wet fly effectively, but all the
old gents I know that tie on a cast of three or four winged wet flies (the
same three or four flies for one or two seasons!) who swing down and across
while wading downstream certainly catch many big fish-- and they work much
less hard at it than a nymph fisherman, certainly.

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Scott
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On 11 Dec, 20:49, Scott Seidman wrote:

Yes, that certainly is one way to fish a wet fly effectively, but all the
old gents I know that tie on a cast of three or four winged wet flies (the
same three or four flies for one or two seasons!) who swing down and across
while wading downstream certainly catch many big fish-- and they work much
less hard at it than a nymph fisherman, certainly.

--
Scott
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Indeed, it works, but it is much more successful, ( although
admittedly a lot more work), upstream.

TL
MC

"Mike" wrote in message
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On 11 Dec, 20:49, Scott Seidman wrote:

Yes, that certainly is one way to fish a wet fly effectively, but all the
old gents I know that tie on a cast of three or four winged wet flies
(the
same three or four flies for one or two seasons!) who swing down and
across
while wading downstream certainly catch many big fish-- and they work
much
less hard at it than a nymph fisherman, certainly.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Indeed, it works, but it is much more successful, ( although
admittedly a lot more work), upstream.

I think it possible that Scott's point was that in casts of multiple flies
at least all but the one closest to the rod were INTENDED to be wet
flies.....which is to say sunk below the surface.....in direct contravention
to the received wisdom recently imparted by an incontrovertible
authority.......who should have maybe read 151.

My own reading of vintage fly fishing literature reveals virtually
limitless, sharp and often and strenuously voiced disagreements concerning
such matters as whether one should fish upstream or downstream, what depths
to fish at, and virtually every other aspect of where, when, why, how to,
and with what to fish. Not surprisingly, the arguments presented on all
sides of all issues tended to be just about as vapid and safely ignorable as
those presented today by the heirs to the wisdom of yesteryear.

Wolfgang
go fish.......really, just go fish.

On 11 Dec, 21:10, "Wolfgang" wrote:

Wolfgang
go fish.......really, just go fish.

Well, as I am retired, I can fish, read, and cook, indeed I don´t do
much else, but thanks for the advice anyway Grandma.

MC

"Mike" wrote in message
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On 11 Dec, 21:10, "Wolfgang" wrote:

Wolfgang
go fish.......really, just go fish.

Well, as I am retired, I can fish, read, and cook, indeed I don´t do
much else, but thanks for the advice anyway Grandma.

The suggestion was directed to those who might profit by it, rather than
sitting here and being bludgeoned by a never-ending stream of whacked out
gospels.

You want advice? Find someone to teach you how to use your computer.

Wolfgang

On 11 Dec, 21:25, "Wolfgang" wrote:

You want advice? Find someone to teach you how to use your computer.

Wolfgang

Thanks for even more useful advice Grandma.

MC

"Mike" wrote in message
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On 11 Dec, 21:25, "Wolfgang" wrote:

You want advice? Find someone to teach you how to use your computer.

Wolfgang

Thanks for even more useful advice

You're welcome.

Grandma.

O.k.......go ahead......amaze us.

Wolfgang

Mike wrote:
On 11 Dec, 20:49, Scott Seidman wrote:


Yes, that certainly is one way to fish a wet fly effectively, but all the
old gents I know that tie on a cast of three or four winged wet flies (the
same three or four flies for one or two seasons!) who swing down and across
while wading downstream certainly catch many big fish-- and they work much
less hard at it than a nymph fisherman, certainly.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply


Indeed, it works, but it is much more successful, ( although
admittedly a lot more work), upstream.

TL
MC


I don't agree.

IMO, dead drifting is over rated. Although dead drifting will
consistently catch fish most of the time, it isn't always better.
Insects both on and in the water MOVE (unless they're dead or are
pretending to be). Adding movement to your flies both wet and dry can
increase your take. It's also more fun, IMO. There are a variety of
ways to give your flies some action.

Willi

Willi wrote in
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Mike wrote:
On 11 Dec, 20:49, Scott Seidman wrote:


Yes, that certainly is one way to fish a wet fly effectively, but all
the old gents I know that tie on a cast of three or four winged wet
flies (the same three or four flies for one or two seasons!) who
swing down and across while wading downstream certainly catch many
big fish-- and they work much less hard at it than a nymph fisherman,
certainly.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply


Indeed, it works, but it is much more successful, ( although
admittedly a lot more work), upstream.

TL
MC


I don't agree.

IMO, dead drifting is over rated. Although dead drifting will
consistently catch fish most of the time, it isn't always better.
Insects both on and in the water MOVE (unless they're dead or are
pretending to be). Adding movement to your flies both wet and dry can
increase your take. It's also more fun, IMO. There are a variety of
ways to give your flies some action.

Willi


I like spending the day casting upstream. Come days end, though, I can
walk back to my car streamside, or I can tie on a cast of wets, and wade
downstream, covering a ton of water very quickly, in what is to me the
laziest most enjoyable fishing experiences I have. The guides around
here always say that wet flies are what you fish when you want to catch
big fish.



--
Scott
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On 12 Dec, 00:14, Willi wrote:
Mike wrote:
On 11 Dec, 20:49, Scott Seidman wrote:

Yes, that certainly is one way to fish a wet fly effectively, but all the
old gents I know that tie on a cast of three or four winged wet flies (the
same three or four flies for one or two seasons!) who swing down and across
while wading downstream certainly catch many big fish-- and they work much
less hard at it than a nymph fisherman, certainly.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

Indeed, it works, but it is much more successful, ( although
admittedly a lot more work), upstream.

TL
MC

I don't agree.

IMO, dead drifting is over rated. Although dead drifting will
consistently catch fish most of the time, it isn't always better.
Insects both on and in the water MOVE (unless they're dead or are
pretending to be). Adding movement to your flies both wet and dry can
increase your take. It's also more fun, IMO. There are a variety of
ways to give your flies some action.

Willi

I didn´t mention dead drifting. In point of fact, I use a lot of
movement on my upstream flies.

TL
MC